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Here are the 4 players I hope take the remaining contracts

 

Adam Elliott  - 180 NRL Games

Tim Johannssen - 1 NRL Game

Isaiah Tass - 70  NRL Games

Haze Dunster - 19 NRL Games

 

Total 269 additional games

I ran a quick check of our 2026 NRL squad against two other randomly selected teams so as to get some data to assess the Benji Marshall claim that the club needs more experience. The data only collected the Top 28 NRL contracted players but the results make it clear that we are still very short on NRL match ready players.

To really change the culture and establish an experienced base of players the club needs to also spell this plan out to young players who have previously come to expect a debut straight out of High School. This should not happen.

The culture must be one where development paths are honoured so we need to make it clear to every junior coming up through the grades - you will not play NRL until or unless you have played a minimum of 25 NSW Cup games. This ensures staggered development for guys like Makasini and Tavana who were clearly not ready when thrown in this year.

One of the better performing rookies this year was Vaka Aho - the only young player whose development path was honoured. If Johannsen is not an option then Aho should get his Top 30 contract.

 



   
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Here are the 4 players I hope take the remaining contracts

 

Adam Elliott  - 180 NRL Games

Tim Johannssen - 1 NRL Game

Isaiah Tass - 70  NRL Games

Haze Dunster - 19 NRL Games

 

Total 269 additional games

I ran a quick check of our 2026 NRL squad against two other randomly selected teams so as to get some data to assess the Benji Marshall claim that the club needs more experience. The data only collected the Top 28 NRL contracted players but the results make it clear that we are still very short on NRL match ready players.

To really change the culture and establish an experienced base of players the club needs to also spell this plan out to young players who have previously come to expect a debut straight out of High School. This should not happen.

The culture must be one where development paths are honoured so we need to make it clear to every junior coming up through the grades - you will not play NRL until or unless you have played a minimum of 25 NSW Cup games. This ensures staggered development for guys like Makasini and Tavana who were clearly not ready when thrown in this year.

One of the better performing rookies this year was Vaka Aho - the only young player whose development path was honoured. If Johannsen is not an option then Aho should get his Top 30 contract.

 

I’d take Tim Johannssen in a heartbeat. No opinion on the rest. 

 



   
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Here are the 4 players I hope take the remaining contracts

 

Adam Elliott  - 180 NRL Games

Tim Johannssen - 1 NRL Game

Isaiah Tass - 70  NRL Games

Haze Dunster - 19 NRL Games

 

Total 269 additional games

I ran a quick check of our 2026 NRL squad against two other randomly selected teams so as to get some data to assess the Benji Marshall claim that the club needs more experience. The data only collected the Top 28 NRL contracted players but the results make it clear that we are still very short on NRL match ready players.

To really change the culture and establish an experienced base of players the club needs to also spell this plan out to young players who have previously come to expect a debut straight out of High School. This should not happen.

The culture must be one where development paths are honoured so we need to make it clear to every junior coming up through the grades - you will not play NRL until or unless you have played a minimum of 25 NSW Cup games. This ensures staggered development for guys like Makasini and Tavana who were clearly not ready when thrown in this year.

One of the better performing rookies this year was Vaka Aho - the only young player whose development path was honoured. If Johannsen is not an option then Aho should get his Top 30 contract.

 

I’d take Tim Johannssen in a heartbeat. No opinion on the rest. 

 

How would you use him?

 


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Here are the 4 players I hope take the remaining contracts

 

Adam Elliott  - 180 NRL Games

Tim Johannssen - 1 NRL Game

Isaiah Tass - 70  NRL Games

Haze Dunster - 19 NRL Games

 

Total 269 additional games

I ran a quick check of our 2026 NRL squad against two other randomly selected teams so as to get some data to assess the Benji Marshall claim that the club needs more experience. The data only collected the Top 28 NRL contracted players but the results make it clear that we are still very short on NRL match ready players.

To really change the culture and establish an experienced base of players the club needs to also spell this plan out to young players who have previously come to expect a debut straight out of High School. This should not happen.

The culture must be one where development paths are honoured so we need to make it clear to every junior coming up through the grades - you will not play NRL until or unless you have played a minimum of 25 NSW Cup games. This ensures staggered development for guys like Makasini and Tavana who were clearly not ready when thrown in this year.

One of the better performing rookies this year was Vaka Aho - the only young player whose development path was honoured. If Johannsen is not an option then Aho should get his Top 30 contract.

 

Good grief. I respect the likely intent of the post (i.e. we want WT be a competitive NRL club) but, beyond that, we're expected to accept his/her defintion of "culture" and the expectations of rookie players straight out of high school. And, the commets are supposedly data driven?  So, more sucessful clubs have a policy of a minimum of 25 NSW Cup games before being promoted to first grade? 

Yeh? Nah.

I'm wanting to be persuaded that someone can convince me that WT has a viable future as a competitive NRL club. But this ain't it.

 



   
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@mercy-rule happy to hear your ideas on how to use the last roster spots? It's just my opinion at the end of the day

I maintain that other successful clubs put players on a development path that is honoured

Melbourne Storm is the best example

Will Warbrick - 15 games Q Cup

Tyran Wishart - 16 games Q Cup

Jack Howarth - 43 games Q Cup

Joe Chan - 20 games Q Cup

Harry Grant - 40 games Q Cup

These guys have had to earn their stripes in lower levels but then again maybe im just looking for data to suit my view. We'll see who Benji has in mind for the last roster spots



   
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I’d take Tim Johannssen in a heartbeat. No opinion on the rest. 

 

 

 

 

How would you use him?

 

Bench - Prop rotation


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Latu is made of glass !!



   
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Latu is made of glass !!

Yep. I can’t see him getting through a full season unfortunately.

 


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I’d take Tim Johannssen in a heartbeat. No opinion on the rest. 

 

 

 

 

How would you use him?

 

Bench - Prop rotation

Does Seyfarth not cover this in a bench with Hunt, Sione and Frizell?

 


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@joel I have posted many times that Latu needs help with his tackling technique but unfortunately when his options are a very inexperienced coaching staff this does not help him.Realistically playing him last night was not a good idea he has hardly played all season no real game fitness and really looked like carrying some weight couple that with him pumped and hitting hard this was bound to happen . I have not thrown the towel in about Latu but feel a more professional approach by himself and the coaching staff would be to his benefit,I feel a lot of his issues revolves around himself .


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I’d take Tim Johannssen in a heartbeat. No opinion on the rest. 

 

 

 

 

How would you use him?

 

Bench - Prop rotation

Does Seyfarth not cover this in a bench with Hunt, Sione and Frizell?

 

You can always use more props. Easy for any or all of them to get injured. I’m not sold on Frizell, regardless of how well he played in the GF. Age will catch up with him this year. I’ve seen this scenario before, many times at Wests Tigers. Hunt going at full steam off the back fence, there is also every chance he’ll be injured again at some point. I really like Hunt but he is not getting any younger either.  

 



   
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Api possible broken jaw during World Cub clash Fiji vs NZ



   
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Api possible broken jaw during World Cub clash Fiji vs NZ

Apparently it won’t affect his preseason.

 


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Api possible broken jaw during World Cub clash Fiji vs NZ

Apparently it won’t affect his preseason.

I cant imagine how that can be true. Sure he will be available to train day one but he is going to lose weight and mass between now and then. 100% it will impact his preseason.

 



   
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