Doesn't matter. Left or right or forward yes. Up no, only because he is applying downward pressure and there wouldn’t be enough time to move it upwards. It’s a nonsense argument. There are lots of ways you can hold the ball and not be able to move in all directions.I don't think that is holding the ball
Sure it is. He could put the ball short if he wanted to. He is holding it between his fingers, palm and wrist.
but could he move it to the left or right or forwards or up?
Doesn't matter. Left or right or forward yes. Up no, only because he is applying downward pressure and there wouldn’t be enough time to move it upwards. It’s a nonsense argument. There are lots of ways you can hold the ball and not be able to move in all directions.I don't think that is holding the ball
Sure it is. He could put the ball short if he wanted to. He is holding it between his fingers, palm and wrist.
but could he move it to the left or right or forwards or up?
he’s not moving it left or right or forwards the way his hand is on it. He lost control of the ball and never regained complete control. According to the current interruption it’s not a try.
now is that the best way to adjudicate the game? Probably not but that’s another question
No he didn’t lose control. If you are passing the ball left to right you can’t immediately change it from right to left. You need an immediate step to do so but you are still holding the ball. It's a nonsense argument. Just because he could not move the ball immediately upwards before he planted it on the ground doesn’t mean he didn’t have hold of the ball. It was a TRY. You watch this week any similar movement will be awarded with a TRY.Doesn't matter. Left or right or forward yes. Up no, only because he is applying downward pressure and there wouldn’t be enough time to move it upwards. It’s a nonsense argument. There are lots of ways you can hold the ball and not be able to move in all directions.I don't think that is holding the ball
Sure it is. He could put the ball short if he wanted to. He is holding it between his fingers, palm and wrist.
but could he move it to the left or right or forwards or up?
he’s not moving it left or right or forwards the way his hand is on it. He lost control of the ball and never regained complete control. According to the current interruption it’s not a try.
now is that the best way to adjudicate the game? Probably not but that’s another question
No he didn’t lose control. If you are passing the ball left to right you can’t immediately change it from right to left. You need an immediate step to do so but you are still holding the ball. It's a nonsense argument. Just because he could not move the ball immediately upwards before he planted it on the ground doesn’t mean he didn’t have hold of the ball. It was a TRY. You watch this week any similar movement will be awarded with a TRY.Doesn't matter. Left or right or forward yes. Up no, only because he is applying downward pressure and there wouldn’t be enough time to move it upwards. It’s a nonsense argument. There are lots of ways you can hold the ball and not be able to move in all directions.I don't think that is holding the ball
Sure it is. He could put the ball short if he wanted to. He is holding it between his fingers, palm and wrist.
but could he move it to the left or right or forwards or up?
he’s not moving it left or right or forwards the way his hand is on it. He lost control of the ball and never regained complete control. According to the current interruption it’s not a try.
now is that the best way to adjudicate the game? Probably not but that’s another question
As soon as the ball leaves contact with his fingers they deem he has lost control.
we can go away all season about it but it’s not in the book as a try and Api will never be credited with a try in 2024 round 8.
Only because the officials are incompetent and biased against the Wests Tigers. They are rotten all the way from Annesley down.No he didn’t lose control. If you are passing the ball left to right you can’t immediately change it from right to left. You need an immediate step to do so but you are still holding the ball. It's a nonsense argument. Just because he could not move the ball immediately upwards before he planted it on the ground doesn’t mean he didn’t have hold of the ball. It was a TRY. You watch this week any similar movement will be awarded with a TRY.Doesn't matter. Left or right or forward yes. Up no, only because he is applying downward pressure and there wouldn’t be enough time to move it upwards. It’s a nonsense argument. There are lots of ways you can hold the ball and not be able to move in all directions.I don't think that is holding the ball
Sure it is. He could put the ball short if he wanted to. He is holding it between his fingers, palm and wrist.
but could he move it to the left or right or forwards or up?
he’s not moving it left or right or forwards the way his hand is on it. He lost control of the ball and never regained complete control. According to the current interruption it’s not a try.
now is that the best way to adjudicate the game? Probably not but that’s another question
As soon as the ball leaves contact with his fingers they deem he has lost control.
we can go away all season about it but it’s not in the book as a try and Api will never be credited with a try in 2024 round 8.
Only because the officials are incompetent and biased against the Wests Tigers. They are rotten all the way from Annesley down.No he didn’t lose control. If you are passing the ball left to right you can’t immediately change it from right to left. You need an immediate step to do so but you are still holding the ball. It's a nonsense argument. Just because he could not move the ball immediately upwards before he planted it on the ground doesn’t mean he didn’t have hold of the ball. It was a TRY. You watch this week any similar movement will be awarded with a TRY.Doesn't matter. Left or right or forward yes. Up no, only because he is applying downward pressure and there wouldn’t be enough time to move it upwards. It’s a nonsense argument. There are lots of ways you can hold the ball and not be able to move in all directions.I don't think that is holding the ball
Sure it is. He could put the ball short if he wanted to. He is holding it between his fingers, palm and wrist.
but could he move it to the left or right or forwards or up?
he’s not moving it left or right or forwards the way his hand is on it. He lost control of the ball and never regained complete control. According to the current interruption it’s not a try.
now is that the best way to adjudicate the game? Probably not but that’s another question
As soon as the ball leaves contact with his fingers they deem he has lost control.
we can go away all season about it but it’s not in the book as a try and Api will never be credited with a try in 2024 round 8.
I disagree. There is no bias against the Wests Tigers. That kind of thinking has no basis in fact.
overall the officials do a good job. They don’t get everything right but they definitely aren’t making deliberate errors. Errors happen that shouldn’t like the non sin bin against Penrith. However this one was a technically correct ruling in the mind of the video ref.
Definately bias against the Wests Tigers. We get dudded too often for them to be just errors. These are not just errors but a systemic problem against the Wests Tigers by the officials. There needs to be an investigation into the current officials, starting with Annesley.Only because the officials are incompetent and biased against the Wests Tigers. They are rotten all the way from Annesley down.No he didn’t lose control. If you are passing the ball left to right you can’t immediately change it from right to left. You need an immediate step to do so but you are still holding the ball. It's a nonsense argument. Just because he could not move the ball immediately upwards before he planted it on the ground doesn’t mean he didn’t have hold of the ball. It was a TRY. You watch this week any similar movement will be awarded with a TRY.Doesn't matter. Left or right or forward yes. Up no, only because he is applying downward pressure and there wouldn’t be enough time to move it upwards. It’s a nonsense argument. There are lots of ways you can hold the ball and not be able to move in all directions.I don't think that is holding the ball
Sure it is. He could put the ball short if he wanted to. He is holding it between his fingers, palm and wrist.
but could he move it to the left or right or forwards or up?
he’s not moving it left or right or forwards the way his hand is on it. He lost control of the ball and never regained complete control. According to the current interruption it’s not a try.
now is that the best way to adjudicate the game? Probably not but that’s another question
As soon as the ball leaves contact with his fingers they deem he has lost control.
we can go away all season about it but it’s not in the book as a try and Api will never be credited with a try in 2024 round 8.
I disagree. There is no bias against the Wests Tigers. That kind of thinking has no basis in fact.
overall the officials do a good job. They don’t get everything right but they definitely aren’t making deliberate errors. Errors happen that shouldn’t like the non sin bin against Penrith. However this one was a technically correct ruling in the mind of the video ref.
Definately bias against the Wests Tigers. We get dudded too often for them to be just errors. These are not just errors but a systemic problem against the Wests Tigers by the officials. There needs to be an investigation into the current officials, starting with Annesley.Only because the officials are incompetent and biased against the Wests Tigers. They are rotten all the way from Annesley down.No he didn’t lose control. If you are passing the ball left to right you can’t immediately change it from right to left. You need an immediate step to do so but you are still holding the ball. It's a nonsense argument. Just because he could not move the ball immediately upwards before he planted it on the ground doesn’t mean he didn’t have hold of the ball. It was a TRY. You watch this week any similar movement will be awarded with a TRY.Doesn't matter. Left or right or forward yes. Up no, only because he is applying downward pressure and there wouldn’t be enough time to move it upwards. It’s a nonsense argument. There are lots of ways you can hold the ball and not be able to move in all directions.I don't think that is holding the ball
Sure it is. He could put the ball short if he wanted to. He is holding it between his fingers, palm and wrist.
but could he move it to the left or right or forwards or up?
he’s not moving it left or right or forwards the way his hand is on it. He lost control of the ball and never regained complete control. According to the current interruption it’s not a try.
now is that the best way to adjudicate the game? Probably not but that’s another question
As soon as the ball leaves contact with his fingers they deem he has lost control.
we can go away all season about it but it’s not in the book as a try and Api will never be credited with a try in 2024 round 8.
I disagree. There is no bias against the Wests Tigers. That kind of thinking has no basis in fact.
overall the officials do a good job. They don’t get everything right but they definitely aren’t making deliberate errors. Errors happen that shouldn’t like the non sin bin against Penrith. However this one was a technically correct ruling in the mind of the video ref.
Half the clubs feel the same way.
Isn’t there a rule of not being in the spirit of the game?
If so, a finicky decisions at a crucial time for a club that has won the last two spoons and is battling for every win should have been allowed to get away with one (as we would have if there was no bunker).
I just think the way the game is going we are losing the human touch and making it into something it just isn’t - scientific.
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Isn’t there a rule of not being in the spirit of the game?
If so, a finicky decisions at a crucial time for a club that has won the last two spoons and is battling for every win should have been allowed to get away with one (as we would have if there was no bunker).
I just think the way the game is going we are losing the human touch and making it into something it just isn’t - scientific.
Agree with the last paragraph there. But the problem is also the other way in that people are unwilling to accept minor mistakes.
Let’s not open the ‘spirit of cricket’ debate 🤣
1) there was separation
2) the law as described by Annesley says you need to regain control which is discuss as being “grip”
3) grip cannot be determined by super slow mow tv camera from weird angle
4) this law is inconsistent with laws like grounding a grubber where downward pressure is deemed sufficient
5) the law should either be changed to allow downward pressure explicitly as a try or the guidance to video ref needs to change to prevent them from overruling the onfield decision
6) the video ref review of every try is a blight on the game. Bring in an extra captains challenge or two to take the howler out.
