@avocadoontoast Only going by what I was told we will wait and see I guess.
if the brown swap with harper happens that will put parramatta deal very close with our deal you would think that makes up the 300k difference
Again still believe we are in box seat (just) and delay is related to Brooks and his deal getting sorted, remember Moses has time until end of March.
The club are baulking at the length of the Brooks deal, he wants longer than they are prepared to give him. If you are Brooks where is the next contract coming from, and where does Isaac get his commission, this way Isaac locks in both players.
Isaac has us over a barrel again
With respect Jedi I don't think it has anything to do with Brooks at all.
agree. Moses and brooks would be a good duo becuase Moses overcomes brooks weaknesses (kicking game and management of game) and let’s him play to his strengths (putting second rowers into gaps and running).
if this was true you would simply offer the two contracts contingent on each other..
More likely simply BS to give eels more time to come up with the dollars . Not a bad thing as it reduces their ability to pinch out young guns in the future.
for mine more chance Santa Claus is real then Moses is coming
I do agree that the length this is dragging on for could mean there is more complexity than it might appear ie Brooks deal.
But equally, unless Moses has signed this is more and more (most likely) playing into the Eels favour.
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We should offer Manly Seyfarth for Harper on a better swap deal and trump Eels.
There’s not a lot of gain in that for us.
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@helmesy it probably stops parramatta having cash for Moses, who knows that may have been the reason we pulled out of brown deal because we saw what parramatta was trying to do at the time.
What worries me is we went from a clear 300k to 400k better offer for Moses then last week parramatta increased by 100k - 150k and if they increase again geez they get very close.
WITH the clock ticking on a Mitch Moses contract decision it’s worth noting the $2 million difference in the tug-of-war between the Parramatta Eels and Wests Tigers for the services of the NRL’s most in-demand no.7
The Tigers – hell-bent on landing a marquee playmaker to help guide the club back towards the finals – are prepared to offer Moses a five-year deal valued at around the $1.3 million per season mark.
Parramatta – fresh off riding a September wave all the way into the club’s first grand final appearance in 13 seasons – are remaining slightly more fiscally-responsible with a four-year deal around the $1.1 million mark.
Crunch the numbers and the Wests Tigers offer ends up being a $6.5 million deal compared to the Parramatta Eels offer of $4.4 million.
Despite the $2.1 million difference, Moses told the media as recently as last week the decision will be based on winning premierships rather than money.
Turning 29 in September, it makes sense as the playmaker moves into what should be the best years of his career.
But $2.1 million is still a hell of a lot of money and in many respects explains why the Moses contract negotiations have stretched almost all the way to round one of the 2023 season.
Prior to Christmas, the word being pushed to Parramatta, Wests Tigers and at that stage the Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs were still in the picture as well was Moses was expected to make a decision prior to December 25.
That deadline has now well and truly passed as Parramatta’s opening game of the season against Melbourne on March 2 rapidly approaches.
It’s easy to mount strong arguments about why Moses should remain in the blue and gold or conversely why he should return to his local junior club.
At Parramatta, the Eels have been one of the NRL’s most consistent sides for the past four seasons remaining in the top eight or top four since the low point of the wooden spoon in 2018.
They’ve also heavily-invested in Moses developing into the all-round no.7 he is today after signing him from the Wests Tigers midway through 2017 when the Eels went on to finish top four before the wheels fell off in 2018 and coach Brad Arthur had to undergo a major roster overhaul.
On the flip side at the Wests Tigers the club is clearly finally beginning to take some steps in the right direction under Tim Sheens prior to Benji Marshall taking control as the head coach in 2025.
So if Moses was to make the switch he gets 12-months under Sheens and then another four seasons with Benji at the helm, Api Korisau at dummy-half and the Tigers on an upward trajectory for the first time in ten seasons.
Speak to people at both clubs and it’s a constantly shifting landscape where one day they genuinely think they’re in the box seat and then 24 hours later and it’s been completely flipped on its head.
From what Moses said last week the guessing game shouldn’t go on for too much longer.
When you strip it all back, there’s an argument the playmaker can’t lose either way.
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WITH the clock ticking on a Mitch Moses contract decision it’s worth noting the $2 million difference in the tug-of-war between the Parramatta Eels and Wests Tigers for the services of the NRL’s most in-demand no.7
The Tigers – hell-bent on landing a marquee playmaker to help guide the club back towards the finals – are prepared to offer Moses a five-year deal valued at around the $1.3 million per season mark.
Parramatta – fresh off riding a September wave all the way into the club’s first grand final appearance in 13 seasons – are remaining slightly more fiscally-responsible with a four-year deal around the $1.1 million mark.
Crunch the numbers and the Wests Tigers offer ends up being a $6.5 million deal compared to the Parramatta Eels offer of $4.4 million.
Despite the $2.1 million difference, Moses told the media as recently as last week the decision will be based on winning premierships rather than money.
Turning 29 in September, it makes sense as the playmaker moves into what should be the best years of his career.
But $2.1 million is still a hell of a lot of money and in many respects explains why the Moses contract negotiations have stretched almost all the way to round one of the 2023 season.
Prior to Christmas, the word being pushed to Parramatta, Wests Tigers and at that stage the Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs were still in the picture as well was Moses was expected to make a decision prior to December 25.
That deadline has now well and truly passed as Parramatta’s opening game of the season against Melbourne on March 2 rapidly approaches.
It’s easy to mount strong arguments about why Moses should remain in the blue and gold or conversely why he should return to his local junior club.
At Parramatta, the Eels have been one of the NRL’s most consistent sides for the past four seasons remaining in the top eight or top four since the low point of the wooden spoon in 2018.
They’ve also heavily-invested in Moses developing into the all-round no.7 he is today after signing him from the Wests Tigers midway through 2017 when the Eels went on to finish top four before the wheels fell off in 2018 and coach Brad Arthur had to undergo a major roster overhaul.
On the flip side at the Wests Tigers the club is clearly finally beginning to take some steps in the right direction under Tim Sheens prior to Benji Marshall taking control as the head coach in 2025.
So if Moses was to make the switch he gets 12-months under Sheens and then another four seasons with Benji at the helm, Api Korisau at dummy-half and the Tigers on an upward trajectory for the first time in ten seasons.
Speak to people at both clubs and it’s a constantly shifting landscape where one day they genuinely think they’re in the box seat and then 24 hours later and it’s been completely flipped on its head.
From what Moses said last week the guessing game shouldn’t go on for too much longer.
When you strip it all back, there’s an argument the playmaker can’t lose either way.
Well thank you very much Mr Hooper for enlightening us all on what we have all already known for like 6months.
OK the 5year offer is new, but being Hooper, also likely to be rubbish.
should publicly pull outAnd the media spin starts in preparation for the attack on us when we miss out. In 2 weeks it will be reported Mitch knocked back an extra 4 million.
@helmesy A big shout out to James, Brent and Phil who probably all check the forums... keep throwing darts boys
@tiger2win pulling out now gets us nowhere, media will still spin Moses rejects big tigers offer
wait for a decision to be made and secondly don't believe everything these journo's write
not really.should publicly pull outAnd the media spin starts in preparation for the attack on us when we miss out. In 2 weeks it will be reported Mitch knocked back an extra 4 million.
Would help Parra get him cheaper. IMO keep doing what we are doing, keep chasing, silently.
parra will know if they reduce their offer his manager can re approach us.
I would go harder for welsby. Hopefully the Pom can give us some info on that as I heard talks are meaningful
not really.should publicly pull outAnd the media spin starts in preparation for the attack on us when we miss out. In 2 weeks it will be reported Mitch knocked back an extra 4 million.
Would help Parra get him cheaper. IMO keep doing what we are doing, keep chasing, silently.
parra will know if they reduce their offer his manager can re approach us.
I would go harder for welsby. Hopefully the Pom can give us some info on that as I heard talks are meaningful
Then what is the point of pulling the offer? If you pull the offer, there is no offer and if Eels dropped $200K and we reopened the offer, we would look like bigger amateurs than we are. Do you seriously think that Moses would "just come back to us" if we pulled the offer (for a second time). it wouldnt matter what we offer he would never come here and Parra would know that.
Seriously dont see the cost in leaving our offer open until he makes a decision. It pushes Parra's cost up. What does it cost us?
@tiger2win St George will go all in for Welsby but doubt St Helens release him
