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@celtic_tiger Brooks punches above his weight in the defensive area of late !
@tiger-symmetry I think I explained myself pretty well I thought . I’m more alluding to the idea , which I continuously read on here , Facebook, the other forum , that Hastings is a galvanising force to whip all these soft tigers into something . And to more of a degree , this idea that he should be at half , where defensively and creatively I really don’t see it . I see it , if it’s 2015 and Blake green is your half , but not in this new era of vlandys ball . Where’s dynamic half who can get on the outside is an absolute must .
even the podcast had large portions of it, talking about how AD and Hastings should be our halves .
this isn’t to say Hastings is a bad footballer . Actually I think at 13 he could easily play origin , in a winning footy team, but more to the idea that he’s a 2022 half . I really don’t see it . And I’m pushing back on how a guy who at times can be alienating by his very nature , despite being a great bloke , can be a galvanising force to a team structure . Point is he’s an omega in a team structure . That’s rarely the person to galvanise a team behind . And definitely by his very nature of being comfortable on the edges of a social dynamic like a team, generally leads to conflict with alpha types , and beta types . I identify completely with everything he says and his attitude, and his actions . I’m not questioning his desire , buy in , ability to engage fans , quality as a human , none of it . What I’m questioning is , whether 29 other blokes with strong personality types will get behind it .
The only reason someone like Kobe Bryant or MJ could be such huge jerks, and lead like that from the edges , is because they were so much better than everyone else
@snake it’s amazing . After mbye last year , you’d think they’d be once bitten twice shy . Nope not even a little bit lol
I’m getting strong vibes that we will pick up Klemmer, Bateman and maybe Staines and that we will lose brooks. What is a our round 1 top 17?
1. Laurie
2. Staines? Is noffa gone?
3. Naden
4. Kepaoa
5. Ken
6. Douhie
7. Hastings
8. Klemmer
9. Api
10. Stef
11. Papi
12. Bateman
13. Joffa? We know Benji not a fan of him at lock but with Hastings at 7 is it going to be a more traditional structure rather that 13 as a link player? Is Matamua still a year or two away from starting 13?
14. Simpkin? Rua?
15. Twal
16. Pole
17. Blore? Talau? Both have had so many false starts. They both have talent but both fit who is the best to balance the squad. If Talau can transition to the back row he can cover most positions in the backline and back row
@tiger-symmetry I think I explained myself pretty well I thought . I’m more alluding to the idea , which I continuously read on here , Facebook, the other forum , that Hastings is a galvanising force to whip all these soft tigers into something . And to more of a degree , this idea that he should be at half , where defensively and creatively I really don’t see it . I see it , if it’s 2015 and Blake green is your half , but not in this new era of vlandys ball . Where’s dynamic half who can get on the outside is an absolute must .
even the podcast had large portions of it, talking about how AD and Hastings should be our halves .
this isn’t to say Hastings is a bad footballer . Actually I think at 13 he could easily play origin , in a winning footy team, but more to the idea that he’s a 2022 half . I really don’t see it . And I’m pushing back on how a guy who at times can be alienating by his very nature , despite being a great bloke , can be a galvanising force to a team structure . Point is he’s an omega in a team structure . That’s rarely the person to galvanise a team behind . And definitely by his very nature of being comfortable on the edges of a social dynamic like a team, generally leads to conflict with alpha types , and beta types . I identify completely with everything he says and his attitude, and his actions . I’m not questioning his desire , buy in , ability to engage fans , quality as a human , none of it . What I’m questioning is , whether 29 other blokes with strong personality types will get behind it .
The only reason someone like Kobe Bryant or MJ could be such huge jerks, and lead like that from the edges , is because they were so much better than everyone else
Good post with very reasonable arguments.
I think most of us are just keen to see the back of Brooks and Hastings is the logical 2023 replacement (from within the club).
I don’t think the majority of us see him as being our 7 for the next five years.
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@tiger-symmetry I think I explained myself pretty well I thought . I’m more alluding to the idea , which I continuously read on here , Facebook, the other forum , that Hastings is a galvanising force to whip all these soft tigers into something . And to more of a degree , this idea that he should be at half , where defensively and creatively I really don’t see it . I see it , if it’s 2015 and Blake green is your half , but not in this new era of vlandys ball . Where’s dynamic half who can get on the outside is an absolute must .
even the podcast had large portions of it, talking about how AD and Hastings should be our halves .
this isn’t to say Hastings is a bad footballer . Actually I think at 13 he could easily play origin , in a winning footy team, but more to the idea that he’s a 2022 half . I really don’t see it . And I’m pushing back on how a guy who at times can be alienating by his very nature , despite being a great bloke , can be a galvanising force to a team structure . Point is he’s an omega in a team structure . That’s rarely the person to galvanise a team behind . And definitely by his very nature of being comfortable on the edges of a social dynamic like a team, generally leads to conflict with alpha types , and beta types . I identify completely with everything he says and his attitude, and his actions . I’m not questioning his desire , buy in , ability to engage fans , quality as a human , none of it . What I’m questioning is , whether 29 other blokes with strong personality types will get behind it .
The only reason someone like Kobe Bryant or MJ could be such huge jerks, and lead like that from the edges , is because they were so much better than everyone else
I don't know if I have ever called for Hastings and Ad combo. lol
At this point I would 100% keep Brooks.
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@tiger-symmetry I think I explained myself pretty well I thought . I’m more alluding to the idea , which I continuously read on here , Facebook, the other forum , that Hastings is a galvanising force to whip all these soft tigers into something . And to more of a degree , this idea that he should be at half , where defensively and creatively I really don’t see it . I see it , if it’s 2015 and Blake green is your half , but not in this new era of vlandys ball . Where’s dynamic half who can get on the outside is an absolute must .
even the podcast had large portions of it, talking about how AD and Hastings should be our halves .
this isn’t to say Hastings is a bad footballer . Actually I think at 13 he could easily play origin , in a winning footy team, but more to the idea that he’s a 2022 half . I really don’t see it . And I’m pushing back on how a guy who at times can be alienating by his very nature , despite being a great bloke , can be a galvanising force to a team structure . Point is he’s an omega in a team structure . That’s rarely the person to galvanise a team behind . And definitely by his very nature of being comfortable on the edges of a social dynamic like a team, generally leads to conflict with alpha types , and beta types . I identify completely with everything he says and his attitude, and his actions . I’m not questioning his desire , buy in , ability to engage fans , quality as a human , none of it . What I’m questioning is , whether 29 other blokes with strong personality types will get behind it .
The only reason someone like Kobe Bryant or MJ could be such huge jerks, and lead like that from the edges , is because they were so much better than everyone elseI don't know if I have ever called for Hastings and Ad combo. lol
At this point I would 100% keep Brooks.
Nah just move him on 🤣
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@celtic_tiger AD doesn’t miss tackles he’s not there to make in the first place . Ie. The stat isn’t recorded for simply a runner going through untouched . AD defensively is disgusting for a guy who played fullback as recently as 18 months ago , and is 100kg . Brooks and AD defensively are chalk and cheese . And honestly it’s offensive and insulting to everyone’s intelligence to imply that , this isn’t the case . Say what you will in attack , controlling the team , kicking , whatever .
@tiger-symmetry I think I explained myself pretty well I thought . I’m more alluding to the idea , which I continuously read on here , Facebook, the other forum , that Hastings is a galvanising force to whip all these soft tigers into something . And to more of a degree , this idea that he should be at half , where defensively and creatively I really don’t see it . I see it , if it’s 2015 and Blake green is your half , but not in this new era of vlandys ball . Where’s dynamic half who can get on the outside is an absolute must .
even the podcast had large portions of it, talking about how AD and Hastings should be our halves .
this isn’t to say Hastings is a bad footballer . Actually I think at 13 he could easily play origin , in a winning footy team, but more to the idea that he’s a 2022 half . I really don’t see it . And I’m pushing back on how a guy who at times can be alienating by his very nature , despite being a great bloke , can be a galvanising force to a team structure . Point is he’s an omega in a team structure . That’s rarely the person to galvanise a team behind . And definitely by his very nature of being comfortable on the edges of a social dynamic like a team, generally leads to conflict with alpha types , and beta types . I identify completely with everything he says and his attitude, and his actions . I’m not questioning his desire , buy in , ability to engage fans , quality as a human , none of it . What I’m questioning is , whether 29 other blokes with strong personality types will get behind it .
The only reason someone like Kobe Bryant or MJ could be such huge jerks, and lead like that from the edges , is because they were so much better than everyone elseI don't know if I have ever called for Hastings and Ad combo. lol
At this point I would 100% keep Brooks.
Nah just move him on 🤣
Not for a Hastings/ Ad combo
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@celtic_tiger AD doesn’t miss tackles he’s not there to make in the first place . Ie. The stat isn’t recorded for simply a runner going through untouched . AD defensively is disgusting for a guy who played fullback as recently as 18 months ago , and is 100kg . Brooks and AD defensively are chalk and cheese . And honestly it’s offensive and insulting to everyone’s intelligence to imply that , this isn’t the case . Say what you will in attack , controlling the team , kicking , whatever .
@helmesy conspiracy hat on here . Could we be looking at Hastings lock , Laurie , AD halves , and Staines at the back ?
@helmesy conspiracy hat on here . Could we be looking at Hastings lock , Laurie , AD halves , and Staines at the back ?
There’s something going on, not 100% sure but I reckon we are going in a different direction.
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@helmesy Laurie at the back can’t happen again next year IMO. To me his defence one on one and courage are amazing , but his positional play , and organisational skills at the back are not to first grade standard . And IMO it contributes to why guys find themselves isolated so often especially on the edges. But I very much can see him going alright in the line . At the very least I’m interested in how it would look .
