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What about Eddie Jones/Seibold combo?


   
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What about Eddie Jones/Seibold combo?

You’d be nuts to walk away from head coach of the England Rugby team to join WT. 


   
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Posted by: @tigertownsfs

What about Eddie Jones/Seibold combo?

Someone did say the other day that Alan Jones is currently unemployed.

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What about Eddie Jones/Seibold combo?

Someone did say the other day that Alan Jones is currently unemployed.

As he should be....

 

About 10 years ago I had a longish chat with Eddie Jones. He is a real leaguie. Loves RL and we talked a lot about the Tigers, he has a soft spot for them (this was around 2010/11 so we were still good).

 


   
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What about Eddie Jones/Seibold combo?

Someone did say the other day that Alan Jones is currently unemployed.

As he should be....

 

About 10 years ago I had a longish chat with Eddie Jones. He is a real leaguie. Loves RL and we talked a lot about the Tigers, he has a soft spot for them (this was around 2010/11 so we were still good).

 

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A guy on the WTF saying Siebold and Sheens have spoken and he’s coming in for a tour.

Seibold is a technical coach, our players won’t understand a thing he says. 


   
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A few other people that might come into focus:

Paul Green

Neil Henry

Brett Hodgson 

Ian Watson (Pommie coach who got a couple of battlers firing)

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This whole coaching debacle leaves me feeling pretty hollow.After listening to the latest podcast this afternoon I perceive that everyone was of fairlysimilar opinion and it’s obvious this fiasco has played out as a PR eyesore.Given the less than favourable way we’ve been portrayed across all media,I wholeheartedly agree with Joel that it’s absolutely imperative we get this area of the club sorted.We need a strong and savvy media advisor/unit before anyone publicly opens their trap.Communication wise it would seem we’re not a united front.Our image has been battered and bruised enough without adding insult to injury.

 


   
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There are numerous examples across multiple sporting codes of coaches who have tasted success at some clubs but are a failure at others. 

There is a tired paradigm of thinking in Rugby League that the circumstances in which a coach loses their job determines their desirability as a coach.

Paul Green and Shane Flanagan are examples of this. Both premiership winners in recent times. Yet both are considered ‘untouchable’ both according to fans and pundits. Prob add John Morris to this.

Truth is the variability of success not only comes down to coach but also the players at that coach’s disposal. Paul Green had a future immortal in Johnathan Thurston. Flanagan had Paul Gallen, Luke Lewis, Ben Barba, James Maloney and Michael Ennis.. 

I think any of the candidates suggested can turn us into a winning force. But he will only be able to do it with the right players at his disposal. 


   
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Posted by: @helmesy

A few other people that might come into focus:

Paul Green

Neil Henry

Brett Hodgson 

Ian Watson (Pommie coach who got a couple of battlers firing)

Neil Henry is a very good rebuilding coach but I doubt we’d consider him.

 

shaun wane the other pommie to consider


   
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There are numerous examples across multiple sporting codes of coaches who have tasted success at some clubs but are a failure at others. 

There is a tired paradigm of thinking in Rugby League that the circumstances in which a coach loses their job determines their desirability as a coach.

Paul Green and Shane Flanagan are examples of this. Both premiership winners in recent times. Yet both are considered ‘untouchable’ both according to fans and pundits. Prob add John Morris to this.

Truth is the variability of success not only comes down to coach but also the players at that coach’s disposal. Paul Green had a future immortal in Johnathan Thurston. Flanagan had Paul Gallen, Luke Lewis, Ben Barba, James Maloney and Michael Ennis.. 

I think any of the candidates suggested can turn us into a winning force. But he will only be able to do it with the right players at his disposal. 

Good post and I agree with you regarding Green 100%. To Flanagan’s credit however, with the exception of Gallen he recruited all those players.


   
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My worry is we place too much of our clubs hope of the next coach to fix everything. 

If we want to be a franchise - yeah pick a good coach and a good squad and away you go. 100% of your success or failure is pinned Don the 1st garde coach.

But if we want to be a development club, it relies on the systems and people across the club being strong, which is led by someone like Sheens - not the first grade coach. Under that system,  maybe 20-30% of your success or failure is pinned on the 1st grade coach - while 70-80% is dictated by the clubs systems and people in those systems.

The thing is we are only in early stages of transition from a badly run franchise to beginning of a development club.

I would of placed Gardiner as the coach of the good young crop of boys and let him follow them up the grades, to eventually becoming the 1st grade coach in 3-5years.

In the meantime I would of stuck solid with madge.

 

 

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There are numerous examples across multiple sporting codes of coaches who have tasted success at some clubs but are a failure at others. 

There is a tired paradigm of thinking in Rugby League that the circumstances in which a coach loses their job determines their desirability as a coach.

Paul Green and Shane Flanagan are examples of this. Both premiership winners in recent times. Yet both are considered ‘untouchable’ both according to fans and pundits. Prob add John Morris to this.

Truth is the variability of success not only comes down to coach but also the players at that coach’s disposal. Paul Green had a future immortal in Johnathan Thurston. Flanagan had Paul Gallen, Luke Lewis, Ben Barba, James Maloney and Michael Ennis.. 

I think any of the candidates suggested can turn us into a winning force. But he will only be able to do it with the right players at his disposal. 

Good post and I agree with you regarding Green 100%. To Flanagan’s credit however, with the exception of Gallen he recruited all those players.

I think this is what bothers me about Ciraldo. Why go all in? Why treat him like he is the only coach available or capable of coaching the Tigers? 


   
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There are numerous examples across multiple sporting codes of coaches who have tasted success at some clubs but are a failure at others. 

There is a tired paradigm of thinking in Rugby League that the circumstances in which a coach loses their job determines their desirability as a coach.

Paul Green and Shane Flanagan are examples of this. Both premiership winners in recent times. Yet both are considered ‘untouchable’ both according to fans and pundits. Prob add John Morris to this.

Truth is the variability of success not only comes down to coach but also the players at that coach’s disposal. Paul Green had a future immortal in Johnathan Thurston. Flanagan had Paul Gallen, Luke Lewis, Ben Barba, James Maloney and Michael Ennis.. 

I think any of the candidates suggested can turn us into a winning force. But he will only be able to do it with the right players at his disposal. 

Good post and I agree with you regarding Green 100%. To Flanagan’s credit however, with the exception of Gallen he recruited all those players.

I think this is what bothers me about Ciraldo. Why go all in? Why treat him like he is the only coach available or capable of coaching the Tigers? 

 

I’m not overly upset we missed out on Ciraldo tbh, he has great wraps but he’s completely unproven. The way we went about however was a lesson in incompetence.


   
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I'm bemused the club thought offering five years would be an inducement to Ciraldo. It reeked of desperation and if history has taught us anything, contract length for a coach means zero for WTs.

He's just seen Madge sacked with 18 months to go on his contract. Why would he think that couldn't happen to him? 

Staggeringly naive and ridiculously poor strategy. These guys are probably hoping to pay next year's salary cap out of a Nigerian Prince's estate.


   
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