I think Shane Flanagan is the perfect match for the Tigers.
They seem to be a club that’s always under pressure and I don’t think that’s going to change if a new coach comes in — in fact, there could be even more pressure. I see Flanagan as a resilient type of coach that could handle that.
And his recruitment experience is really important too. They need a coach with a good understanding of the market, who knows the price of players, knows who is available and has a connection with agents. I think he’s got that after working as a list management consultant at the Dragons.
We know he’s a successful coach — a premiership-winner. The only reason he’s not in a head coaching role is because of his suspension.
Flanagan also has a knack for developing players. He brought in Jack Bird, Valentine Holmes, Chad Townsend, the Brailey brothers — skilled position players — which is where the Tigers are lacking.
The Tigers have done a lot of great work in developing their pathways in the last few years, particularly around that Group 6 area and I think while they’ll reap the rewards of that, Flanagan can really assist too.
Flanagan knows Sydney well and his son is around that mid-20s age so he’s watched a lot of players in that age group come through.
I think he could be really competitive at the Tigers.
I look forward to hearing you and Garry debate this on the next poddy Joel 😀 . I think he's fine technically, I just can't get over what he did with the peptides - so no for me.
I wasn’t advocating for him btw, they were Alex McKinnons words.
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It is also very funny that no one can agree on who should replace Maguire.. Morris nah not sold on him Flanagan also a no ...this guy that guy.. I see no definitive actual plan.. so it's change for change sake... hoping for success... and the cycle will continue to roll in two years time three years time 10 years time the same how long do we give the next coach .. who are we planning to replace them with..
Would you prefer to leave someone in charge that just continues to make the team worse? We're in year 4 now and $1.65 for the spoon. How much longer do you want to give it. 1 year, 2 years, 3 years? How many spoons do you think we should accrue before it's no longer a change for change's sake?
And regardless, this is just a forum - we all have differing opinions. The board and Sheens and the ones who need to make the decision, not us. For what it's worth my personal view at this stage is that I would take literally anyone. You could give the role to a woolies bbq chicken and it couldn't do any worse than the current muppet in charge.
I want the Club to stick with their convictions.. They extended Maguire until the end of 2023.. that should not change..if that was not there plan they should have never extended his contract..
Sacking him does nothing Put the plan in place to replace him now at the end of his tenure..
So in your opinion the club sticking with their convictions is more important than what's good for the club?
I think it's more important to Put the plan in place to replace him now at the end of his tenure..
I think it is more important to put the plan in place to replace him at seasons end.
Oh god I can't do another 20 weeks of this lol
That would involve announcing a coach for 23 in the next few weeks
Who..?
Get me on the interview panel and I will find one for you.
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I think Shane Flanagan is the perfect match for the Tigers.
They seem to be a club that’s always under pressure and I don’t think that’s going to change if a new coach comes in — in fact, there could be even more pressure. I see Flanagan as a resilient type of coach that could handle that.
And his recruitment experience is really important too. They need a coach with a good understanding of the market, who knows the price of players, knows who is available and has a connection with agents. I think he’s got that after working as a list management consultant at the Dragons.
We know he’s a successful coach — a premiership-winner. The only reason he’s not in a head coaching role is because of his suspension.
Flanagan also has a knack for developing players. He brought in Jack Bird, Valentine Holmes, Chad Townsend, the Brailey brothers — skilled position players — which is where the Tigers are lacking.
The Tigers have done a lot of great work in developing their pathways in the last few years, particularly around that Group 6 area and I think while they’ll reap the rewards of that, Flanagan can really assist too.
Flanagan knows Sydney well and his son is around that mid-20s age so he’s watched a lot of players in that age group come through.
I think he could be really competitive at the Tigers.
I look forward to hearing you and Garry debate this on the next poddy Joel 😀 . I think he's fine technically, I just can't get over what he did with the peptides - so no for me.
I agree mate.
In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)
If flannagan new what was going on with the peptides then that is disgraceful and shoukd have gotten life ban
if he didn't know what was going on with the peptides then he is I competent in his coaching program
I think Shane Flanagan is the perfect match for the Tigers.
They seem to be a club that’s always under pressure and I don’t think that’s going to change if a new coach comes in — in fact, there could be even more pressure. I see Flanagan as a resilient type of coach that could handle that.
And his recruitment experience is really important too. They need a coach with a good understanding of the market, who knows the price of players, knows who is available and has a connection with agents. I think he’s got that after working as a list management consultant at the Dragons.
We know he’s a successful coach — a premiership-winner. The only reason he’s not in a head coaching role is because of his suspension.
Flanagan also has a knack for developing players. He brought in Jack Bird, Valentine Holmes, Chad Townsend, the Brailey brothers — skilled position players — which is where the Tigers are lacking.
The Tigers have done a lot of great work in developing their pathways in the last few years, particularly around that Group 6 area and I think while they’ll reap the rewards of that, Flanagan can really assist too.
Flanagan knows Sydney well and his son is around that mid-20s age so he’s watched a lot of players in that age group come through.
I think he could be really competitive at the Tigers.
I look forward to hearing you and Garry debate this on the next poddy Joel 😀 . I think he's fine technically, I just can't get over what he did with the peptides - so no for me.
I agree mate.
Must have been your doppelgänger outside Wests Ashfield with the placard Garry 😆
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If flannagan new what was going on with the peptides then that is disgraceful and shoukd have gotten life ban
if he didn't know what was going on with the peptides then he is I competent in his coaching program
Sharks should have been done for manslaughter .....
@mac_tiger I am not sure what is worse, the list or the analysis of it. Sheens was past his best a decade ago and Fittler failed at the roosters, which is near impossible to do.
Pickings are very slim, but madge lost the dressing room a year ago and the players just aren't performing. His overhaul of staff again resulted in recruiting blokes that would not threaten his job.
Terrible gameplans, structure and use of the bench.
I would look at Woolfe.
Compare and contrast with our situation 🙁
Very few things in rugby league are certain.
Those include - fans overreacting to every little thing, media outlets putting pressure on referees whether it is warranted or not, and the Sharks will do something stupid.
Without trying to rub it in for fans in the Shire we've literally seen it all from the boys in blue, on and off the field.
Peptides, shadow boxing, jerseys cut up, bubbler photos going viral, e-mails being found years after the fact. Yikes!
Then there was 2021; the year that very quickly became about John Morris and his departure from the club.
The media has a field day. "Players would walk away" they screamed from rooftops. Fairweather fans and outsiders couldn't believe the way the Sharks board supposedly treated a club hero.
Fast forward to Round 5 of the 2022 NRL competition and it's fair to say, at least at is stands, the decisions made look to be positive ones.
For the record, I am a rusted on, life-long Sharks fan. I have the grey hairs as proof. This club has put me through things no one else in my life ever could.
Also for the record, and you can check my socials for confirmation, I was on board the Craig Fitzgibbon bandwagon from the very second his signing was announced.
The need for a culture shift within the club was oh so overdue.
With the greatest of respect to John Morris, the only reason he was placed into the top job following Shane Flanagan's sacking was that he was there and he was affordable.
Huge shout out to Morris. He did his absolute best. In 2020 I'd argue he lead the Sharks to a finals finish that could be considered an overachievement.
That said though, it was obvious he was a caretaker or a bridge coach. The club bided their time and in Fitzgibbon, they got their man.
Even before his arrival at the club the feeling completely shifted within the fanbase.
Fitzgibbon delivered a 12 to 15-minute press conference, still dressed in Roosters gear such is the respect of the man, that put every Sharks mind at ease.
He delivered his message with such grace, professionalism and excitement that you'd have to be made of stone not to feel chills.
Since that moment the shift began. Player signings became for need and based on character rather than just signing players to trend on social media.
Fitzgibbon said, numerous times in interviews and press releases, that he wanted "good men" as well as good players. This says a lot about a rookie coach already showing experience well beyond his years.
Nicho Hynes, arguably the game's most popular player, was signed to fill a role. Social media experts were quick to jump on this saying he was a fullback in the Storm system and nothing more.
Two man of the match performances and a brilliant run to date show perhaps Fitzgibbon does know what he's talking about.
For mine though, the biggest player signing for the Sharks heading into 2022 was Dale Finucane.
I spoke with Sharks prop and cult hero Toby Rudolf in the pre-season who had the following to say about the former Storm legend.
"This is a guy (Finucane) I watched on TV for the past ten years watching First Grade. I look to my right and he's playing next to me. He's also been unreal around the club," Rudolf said.
"He's brought a lot of professionalism. You see him two hours before training doing all his extras, doing his rehab. I'd always heard that he was a true professional and he's definitely living up to the hype."
His leadership on and off the field since arriving at Cronulla cannot be put into words.
Presented with the captaincy following an injury to club captain Wade Graham, Finucane has led from the front. From the second he bursts out of the sheds and sprints onto the field to the moment he delivers his final high five to the crowd before returning to the locker room, he radiates class.
The inclusions of Finucane, Hynes and McInnes have helped shift the Sharks culture in a very positive manner. Throw in the supremely popular Wade Graham, Ken Stephens medal winner Ronaldo Mulitaloand the emerging youngsters and the perception of this team is a complete 180 of what it once was.
That is all down to the arrival of Craig Fitzgibbon and the culture he has built.
The vibe at the Sharks is at an all-time high.
Don't take my word for it though. I went to Sharks social media manager and man on the ground Gary Dover who replied: "Everyone's feeling really good about how it's going. Everyone's been working very hard and the vibe around the club is very good at the moment."
During my pre-season discussion with the aforementioned Toby Rudolf, he was nothing but positive about his new coach, stating: "There definitely has been a different feel this pre-season with Fitz as the head coach. Last year was a lot more sort of straight line running fitness, a lot of real flogging sessions."
"This season it is a lot more footy specific. A lot of 13 on 13 stuff, scrimmage. Just as tiring and apparently we've covered more meteres and ran faster and worked harder. Just doesn't feel that way. Definitely makes pre-season more enjoyable because it's not a very enjoyable time. Fitz has been unreal so far."
Judging by the fact Toby has literally jumped into the fans to celebrate on more than one occasion I believe it's fair to suggest he's still enjoying his footy under Fitzgibbon.
I've been to a literal hundred games at Shark Park (known now as Pointsbet Stadium) but, other than 2016 of course, I haven't been witness to such a party atmosphere.
The team is winning, the players are happy and engaged and the fans are having an absolute ball.
Again, that is down a heap of work being undertaken away from the field and that, again, is lead by one Craig Fitzgibbon!
https://www.zerotackle.com/culture-shift-sharks-on-field-success-due-to-off-field-efforts-116208/
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Flanagan also has a knack for developing players. He brought in Jack Bird, Valentine Holmes, Chad Townsend, the Brailey brothers — skilled position players —
Does he? Or did he coach a team with Endeavour Sports High up the road and great junior systems?
There are many reasons I dont want Flanagan, mostly regarding his principles, but I also think he is simply Madge 2.0. He won a comp building a tough gritty team that scrapped for every inch. That game is gone.
Flanagan also has a knack for developing players. He brought in Jack Bird, Valentine Holmes, Chad Townsend, the Brailey brothers — skilled position players —
Does he? Or did he coach a team with Endeavour Sports High up the road and great junior systems?
There are many reasons I dont want Flanagan, mostly regarding his principles, but I also think he is simply Madge 2.0. He won a comp building a tough gritty team that scrapped for every inch. That game is gone.
I don’t think Flanagan will be coaching here.
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