We cant keep doing the 50/50 split.
Upgrade LO in terms of facilities (Amenities, Change Rooms and corporate), however we need to Invest in the stadium that has the region with the most growth opportunities. That is CS.
A slightly smaller version of Parra Stadium is what we need.
I agree but my information is CSS isn't getting any funding.
Safe Labor seat. No chance
We cant keep doing the 50/50 split.
Upgrade LO in terms of facilities (Amenities, Change Rooms and corporate), however we need to Invest in the stadium that has the region with the most growth opportunities. That is CS.
A slightly smaller version of Parra Stadium is what we need.
I agree but my information is CSS isn't getting any funding.
Safe Labor seat. No chance
The only way it would have happened if PVL included in the package he was pushing. This didn't happen.
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The more I think about the more I think we just end up split 50/50 LO CSS or thereabouts. We are never going to give up on one area or the other and if there is no neutral venue that ticks all the boxes (SFS/ANZ) then we may as well just stick to our original homes and lobby for incremental upgrade. I was at WIN for the first time today and it was a great ground. We should just target an upgrade for both our homes, one grandstand at a time. 15-20k people at a full house is plenty particularly if you think that because we are splitting our games between the two regions we shouldn’t expect to have a 30k audience to the regional grounds.
LO has some funding coming in the next couple of weeks.
It will just be window dressing and won’t really ‘upgrade’ the ground.
The more I think about the more I think we just end up split 50/50 LO CSS or thereabouts. We are never going to give up on one area or the other and if there is no neutral venue that ticks all the boxes (SFS/ANZ) then we may as well just stick to our original homes and lobby for incremental upgrade. I was at WIN for the first time today and it was a great ground. We should just target an upgrade for both our homes, one grandstand at a time. 15-20k people at a full house is plenty particularly if you think that because we are splitting our games between the two regions we shouldn’t expect to have a 30k audience to the regional grounds.
LO has some funding coming in the next couple of weeks.
It will just be window dressing and won’t really ‘upgrade’ the ground.
My guess is it will increase the Corporate area (most critical to the club)
The more I think about the more I think we just end up split 50/50 LO CSS or thereabouts. We are never going to give up on one area or the other and if there is no neutral venue that ticks all the boxes (SFS/ANZ) then we may as well just stick to our original homes and lobby for incremental upgrade. I was at WIN for the first time today and it was a great ground. We should just target an upgrade for both our homes, one grandstand at a time. 15-20k people at a full house is plenty particularly if you think that because we are splitting our games between the two regions we shouldn’t expect to have a 30k audience to the regional grounds.
LO has some funding coming in the next couple of weeks.
It will just be window dressing and won’t really ‘upgrade’ the ground.
My guess is it will increase the Corporate area (most critical to the club)
Unless it’s about $300M to rebuild it, it will be just window dressing and completely pointless.
The more I think about the more I think we just end up split 50/50 LO CSS or thereabouts. We are never going to give up on one area or the other and if there is no neutral venue that ticks all the boxes (SFS/ANZ) then we may as well just stick to our original homes and lobby for incremental upgrade. I was at WIN for the first time today and it was a great ground. We should just target an upgrade for both our homes, one grandstand at a time. 15-20k people at a full house is plenty particularly if you think that because we are splitting our games between the two regions we shouldn’t expect to have a 30k audience to the regional grounds.
LO has some funding coming in the next couple of weeks.
It will just be window dressing and won’t really ‘upgrade’ the ground.
My guess is it will increase the Corporate area (most critical to the club)
Unless it’s about $300M to rebuild it, it will be just window dressing and completely pointless.
Its about $50m
In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)
The more I think about the more I think we just end up split 50/50 LO CSS or thereabouts. We are never going to give up on one area or the other and if there is no neutral venue that ticks all the boxes (SFS/ANZ) then we may as well just stick to our original homes and lobby for incremental upgrade. I was at WIN for the first time today and it was a great ground. We should just target an upgrade for both our homes, one grandstand at a time. 15-20k people at a full house is plenty particularly if you think that because we are splitting our games between the two regions we shouldn’t expect to have a 30k audience to the regional grounds.
LO has some funding coming in the next couple of weeks.
It will just be window dressing and won’t really ‘upgrade’ the ground.
My guess is it will increase the Corporate area (most critical to the club)
Unless it’s about $300M to rebuild it, it will be just window dressing and completely pointless.
I disagree. If they can get 20K there it could work. The clubs main complaint has always been that there isnt enough Corporate Facilities at LO to sell. I think the fans biggest problems are toilets and food outlets, all of which could fit in a $50M budget.
The more I think about the more I think we just end up split 50/50 LO CSS or thereabouts. We are never going to give up on one area or the other and if there is no neutral venue that ticks all the boxes (SFS/ANZ) then we may as well just stick to our original homes and lobby for incremental upgrade. I was at WIN for the first time today and it was a great ground. We should just target an upgrade for both our homes, one grandstand at a time. 15-20k people at a full house is plenty particularly if you think that because we are splitting our games between the two regions we shouldn’t expect to have a 30k audience to the regional grounds.
LO has some funding coming in the next couple of weeks.
It will just be window dressing and won’t really ‘upgrade’ the ground.
My guess is it will increase the Corporate area (most critical to the club)
Unless it’s about $300M to rebuild it, it will be just window dressing and completely pointless.
I disagree. If they can get 20K there it could work. The clubs main complaint has always been that there isnt enough Corporate Facilities at LO to sell. I think the fans biggest problems are toilets and food outlets, all of which could fit in a $50M budget.
I would love to see the capacity get back to around 22k, its more viable at that point.
In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)
From memory for the club there was a fair bit of over head on game day ie things like renting the big screen truck and organising catering etc. $50m is not nothing, if it could upgrade catering, put a screen in and some corporate and other amenities like toilets and change rooms it certainly makes the ground more attractive to take 6 games a year.
according to Inner West council, new dunnies are only 750k
Is that already being done?
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From memory for the club there was a fair bit of over head on game day ie things like renting the big screen truck and organising catering etc. $50m is not nothing, if it could upgrade catering, put a screen in and some corporate and other amenities like toilets and change rooms it certainly makes the ground more attractive to take 6 games a year.
I have spoken to the club about this and the break even point has moved significantly for the club. It is no where near as bad as it used to be.
In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)
according to Inner West council, new dunnies are only 750k
Is that already being done?
Yeah was already planned, completion of that project is next year.
In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)
Sydney’s hopes of hosting the 2027 Rugby World Cup final and a potential Australian bid for the 2034 FIFA World Cup could be dealt a hammer blow if the NSW government again walks away from plans to put a roof on Accor Stadium.
Australia’s other two major rectangular codes have expressed their dismay amid widespread expectation that Premier Dominic Perrottet will cave to pressure from ARL chairman Peter V’landys and redirect what’s left of an $800 million spending plan into suburban grounds around Sydney.
Football Australia boss James Johnson said it was “a bit much” for rugby league to wedge the state government into spending taxpayer funds on a stadiums upgrade program that will benefit one code, while Rugby Australia could have no choice but to send the World Cup final outside the sport’s heartland for the first time if Accor Stadium languishes in its current state.
Football Australia also is considering a joint bid for the men’s World Cup in 2034, with either New Zealand or Indonesia, and while Accor Stadium would almost certainly form a major part of those plans, it risks being well behind modern standards without significant work in the interim.
“At the end of the day, it is the hard-earned money of taxpayers across NSW which is at stake here and, as the representative body of the largest club-based participation sport in the country, we think it’s a bit much for one sport to think it can lay claim to this,” Johnson said.
“The NSW government is the government for all communities in this state, not just a portion of it, so it is vital that broader considerations are made.
“Participation numbers, efforts to bridge the gender gap, and a sport’s ability to contribute to society are all factors which should be considered and one sport does not have a monopoly on this.
“Redirecting investment in a stadium that was due to benefit all codes towards refurbishments for suburban grounds, is clearly an outcome that will benefit one and not all.”
With Australia set to be awarded hosting rights to the 2027 Rugby World Cup next week, Rugby Australia and World Rugby will announce the venues to host the championship games next year.
Only Sydney (Accor), Melbourne (the Melbourne Cricket Ground) and Perth (Optus Stadium) have venues big enough to host the final under World Rugby stipulations, and Accor Stadium is the only rectangular venue in that group.
But any assumption that Sydney was a shoo-in to host its second World Cup final went up in smoke last month when word spread that World Rugby types were taken with Melbourne’s Olympic Parks precinct, containing the MCG, AAMI Park and Melbourne Park tennis precinct, all just a couple of kilometres from the centre of town.
RA chairman Hamish McLennan said it would be premature to enter into debate about potential venues for the final before the tournament had been formally awarded, but conceded that stadium investment would come to bear.
“Investment in infrastructure is absolutely a key factor in where the top games will be played for the Rugby World Cup if we’re successful,” McLennan said.
Putting a retractable roof on the 80,000-seat Accor Stadium has been on and off the agenda for successive NSW Liberal governments since 2016. The latest plan, a $600 million upgrade due to start in 2020 was shelved when the Covid-19 pandemic hit that year, but as recently as last month sport and tourism insiders were confident a modified upgrade would be funded this year.
Government insiders insisted no decisions had been finalised on what the government would and would not prioritise in its stadiums package.
But the speed of V’landys’ cooling off after his blistering attack on the Perrottet Liberal government last week has led many stadium, sports, events and tourism insiders to conclude that last Friday’s meeting with the Premier ended in victory for the powerful ARLC chairman.
V’landys has opposed a $250m spend on Accor for a roof and new seating, pushing instead for hundreds of millions of dollars to be pumped into upgrading suburban grounds such as Brookvale Oval, Leichhardt Oval, the privately-owned Shark Park in Cronulla and Kogarah Oval.
That turn of events would leave football and rugby in a difficult spot, with Australia’s largest rectangular venue now entering its second decade in its unimproved form.
It would also be a peculiar stance for the ARLC given Accor’s status as the home of State of Origin and the NRL grand final.
The stadium is critical for football - particularly as FIFA, in contrast with World Rugby, takes a much dimmer view of playing major international matches at non-rectangular venues. Accor will host the final of next year’s Women’s World Cup and is the site of many of the Socceroos’ greatest moments, including the 2015 Asian Cup decider and their penalty shootout win over Uruguay in 2005 that broke their long World Cup hoodoo.
Because of its size, it is also the stadium of choice for visiting club teams like Barcelona, who will face the A-Leagues All Stars there later this month, and was set for the first Old Firm derby played outside of Scotland until Celtic’s arch-rivals Rangers pulled out of November’s Sydney Super Cup.
The ground was the site of the 2003 Rugby World Cup final, the 2002 Bledisloe Cup decider - the last time Australia held the trophy - and the Waratahs’ 2014 Super Rugby win.
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