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I have been in a few seminars with Dan the bloke is walking inspiration. Literally one of the best learning experiences I have been involved with. Works around positive and growth  mindset. 

Also not sure why people are annoyed at a leadership group nearly every top level sporting team has it we aren't inventing the wheel here.


   
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Posted by: @hodgo

I have been in a few seminars with Dan the bloke is walking inspiration. Literally one of the best learning experiences I have been involved with. Works around positive and growth  mindset. 

Also not sure why people are annoyed at a leadership group nearly every top level sporting team has it we aren't inventing the wheel here.

@hodgo that's great to hear that this Dan guy is the real deal.

I had heard last year that WT didn't have a sport psych on the coaching staff - maybe this is how they are addressing it?

There definitely a few psych issues we need help with, namely leadership, brooks confidence and the pressure of 10 years without finals

hopefully he is working with the team all year round - has anyone got any inside word?

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Can't believe people losing their minds over this (mostly Facebook)..

 

Oh wait Wests Tigers fans..yes yes I can..

I think having multiple people share the captaincy is a cop out.

Seems to work for other Clubs

Tedesco,Keary, Hargraves

Cleary, Yeo,Fisher-Harris

etc etc


   
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Can't believe people losing their minds over this (mostly Facebook)..

 

Oh wait Wests Tigers fans..yes yes I can..

I think having multiple people share the captaincy is a cop out.

Seems to work for other Clubs

Tedesco,Keary, Hargraves

Cleary, Yeo,Fisher-Harris

etc etc

Im pretty sure the Roosters have a leadership group but Teddy is actually captain isn't he? In regards to Penrith 2 guys sharing the role is better than 5. 

To me it is just another example of us over rewarding people in society now days.  Its almost like a participation award.

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Posted by: @garry
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Posted by: @garry
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Can't believe people losing their minds over this (mostly Facebook)..

 

Oh wait Wests Tigers fans..yes yes I can..

I think having multiple people share the captaincy is a cop out.

Seems to work for other Clubs

Tedesco,Keary, Hargraves

Cleary, Yeo,Fisher-Harris

etc etc

Im pretty sure the Roosters have a leadership group but Teddy is actually captain isn't he? In regards to Penrith 2 guys sharing the role is better than 5. 

To me it is just another example of us over rewarding people in society now days.  Its almost like a participation award.

I like the idea of a leadership group if there’s one clear Club Captain - hopefully Doueihi is that man.

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Posted by: @garry
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Can't believe people losing their minds over this (mostly Facebook)..

 

Oh wait Wests Tigers fans..yes yes I can..

I think having multiple people share the captaincy is a cop out.

Seems to work for other Clubs

Tedesco,Keary, Hargraves

Cleary, Yeo,Fisher-Harris

etc etc

Im pretty sure the Roosters have a leadership group but Teddy is actually captain isn't he? In regards to Penrith 2 guys sharing the role is better than 5. 

To me it is just another example of us over rewarding people in society now days.  Its almost like a participation award.

I like the idea of a leadership group if there’s one clear Club Captain - hopefully Doueihi is that man.

Pretty much how I feel about it as well.

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Posted by: @garry
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Can't believe people losing their minds over this (mostly Facebook)..

 

Oh wait Wests Tigers fans..yes yes I can..

I think having multiple people share the captaincy is a cop out.

Seems to work for other Clubs

Tedesco,Keary, Hargraves

Cleary, Yeo,Fisher-Harris

etc etc

But Geo those guys are actual leaders that earned their roles and have the respect of their teammates.

 

Outside of AD we’ve chosen one guy that’s never played for us, one guy that wanted out to go to Newcastle, one guy that I’ve never heard speak and one guy that was signed for his leadership but set a poor example on and off field.

They should have just chosen one player to act as a caretaker until AD gets back. Not sure why the club makes things hard for themselves constantly.

 

A leadership group is fine if those players have leadership qualities.


   
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@tiger-symmetry 

Do one else for Madge to choose from until the new crop comes through.


   
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Wests head coach Michael Maguire has defended the Tigers' decision to employ a five-man leadership group that will share captaincy duties across the course of the 2022 NRL season.

While the choice to name each of Adam Doueihi, Luke Brooks, Ken Maumalo, James Tamou and recent import Tyrone Peachey as skippers raised eyebrows when announced on Tuesday, it must also be remembered that Maguire has form in this particular area.

After taking over the reins at South Sydney in 2012, Maguire implemented a captaincy quintet of Roy Asotasi, John Sutton, Michael Crocker, Matt King and Sam Burgess to lead the resurging side.

Speaking to The Daily Telegraphthe career coach explained that, in his mind, the call for a wider collective at the top was an easy one to make.
“It strengthens that position,” Maguire said.

“Leadership is not just about one person — it is about a team.

“Everyone plays their part in what goes on. We have gone through a process and the guys who have been chosen into that leadership position all have strengths in their own different ways, in their character and the way they do things."

Maguire also claimed that this collective buy-in would be the key to seeing the Tigers finally snapping their lengthy September drought.

“I wanted that to be the pinnacle of where we are going as a club. It’s not about sharing the load — it is about being that person for the team," he continued.

“It strengthens up the leadership. Everyone plays their part on the field whether they are a front-rower or a back. The accountability about how we play, it strengthens that because it is spread across the team.

“It is a really good diverse group of players.”

Although leadership consultant Dan Haesler was brought in to help sculpt the Concord club's facelift, the decision to beef up the on-field committee was made by the players behind closed doors.

Still, Maguire also claimed he had raised the prospect of five skippers after gaining inspiration from a rival code.

“One person acts as the captain — one tosses the coin and talks to the ref,” he said.

“Other than that it is about everyone playing their part. It will rotate around. I picked it up from the AFL world — they have been doing it forever."

While both of Sydney's AFL clubs - the Swans and Giants - have chosen to each operate with three captains for the 2022 season, Maguire is mistaken, as no side in AFL/VFL history has ever had five captains in a single campaign.

Despite cries from outside of the four walls deriding Wests for standing out, the 2014 premiership-winning steward stressed that it was a plan that eventually bore fruit while in Redfern.

“I have been through it at three clubs and I found with where we are at the moment. I remember when I introduced it at Souths and everyone was up in arms," Maguire added.

“I put it in, it started to work, the strength of the group started to grow and everyone thought it was the best thing. But success brings a lot of that, too.”

Maguire also stressed that the Tigers' faithful could rest easy, as the most experienced member of the ambush had given his tick of approval to the ploy.

“Jimmy Tamou is such a strong leader and presence, having the boys with him act that level is where we want to be,” he said.

“I shared the idea and spoke to him in-depth about it. He thinks it is going to be the right thing for the team and where we want to go as a group. He was excellent about it.

“It is the right time. The group is in a good position to be able to do this.”

Maguire and his five-barrelled lieutenancy crew are scheduled to face the Roosters in Gosford on Friday night before their season proper commences with a battle against Melbourne at CommBank Stadium on March 12.

https://www.zerotackle.com/maguire-claims-tigers-captaincy-choice-was-inspired-by-afl-113992/

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Posted by: @hodgo

I have been in a few seminars with Dan the bloke is walking inspiration. Literally one of the best learning experiences I have been involved with. Works around positive and growth  mindset. 

Also not sure why people are annoyed at a leadership group nearly every top level sporting team has it we aren't inventing the wheel here.

Interesting he has no qualifications in this area, only a Bachelor of Arts. So basically he’s a BS artist. 


   
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@mike lol yeah ok! Dudes job is what he is doing I have read his books and had the pleasure of meeting him in person. Has literally worked successfully with a tonne of pro athletes, teachers and buisness man and women. he has researched stuff heavily with the carol dweck on growth mindset . But hey I'm sure you have done your research lol.


   
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@mike lol yeah ok! Dudes job is what he is doing I have read his books and had the pleasure of meeting him in person. Has literally worked successfully with a tonne of pro athletes, teachers and buisness man and women. he has researched stuff heavily with the carol dweck on growth mindset . But hey I'm sure you have done your research lol.

He must be good if he has written books. Like no BS artist has ever done that before. 


   
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I have been in a few seminars with Dan the bloke is walking inspiration. Literally one of the best learning experiences I have been involved with. Works around positive and growth  mindset. 

Also not sure why people are annoyed at a leadership group nearly every top level sporting team has it we aren't inventing the wheel here.

Interesting he has no qualifications in this area, only a Bachelor of Arts. So basically he’s a BS artist. 

Why default immediately to a negative assumption? He is obviously well regarded. The Growth Mindset work by Carol Dweck is based on comprehensive sound research and evidence based practice - look up her work in hundreds of American school communities and sporting organisations. Her work is world renowned. 
This guy is not basing his work on his own research but is using established research none the less. Maybe you are right and he is a bs artist but maybe he is well researched, and can contextually apply this research to people he id working with. Maybe he is exceptional at that. Maybe he will make a positive difference 


   
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You could potentially make the argument that when communicating with rugby league players you might not want to be an academic.

Hopefully he can put his message into a context that works well for the boys.

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@mike lol allg mate you do you. I love when people who have no idea about the content or person make comments they know zero about lol.


   
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