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Hmm well that is from left field.

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Posted by: @helmesy

Hmm well that is from left field.

For my mental health I refuse to believe it lol


   
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Hmm well that is from left field.

For my mental health I refuse to believe it lol

He’s been around a while and has a pretty good reputation. Is he the guy though that turns this team around and attracts quality players, I’m not so sure.

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Posted by: @helmesy

Hmm well that is from left field.

For my mental health I refuse to believe it lol

He’s been around a while and has a pretty good reputation. Is he the guy though that turns this team around and attracts quality players, I’m not so sure.

If he's the best we can come up with we're in deep trouble.


   
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I don’t see the issue with an inexperienced coach, whether it is Webster, Morris or Kimmorley as long as the club installs a support staff around him to help.

To assist the coach, they also need to improve our senior players. In hindsight, a player like dale finucane would have done the club wonders. 

hopefully Papali and Korosiau will provide that in 2023. I think we need to add a couple of battle hardened front rowers to the mix to help the young forwards we have coming through. 


   
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Now Ricky Stuart is telling us who should be coach.

 

Canberra coach Ricky Stuart has declared Wests Tigers need an experienced coach who “won’t succumb to outside pressures” and can “handle the politics from above”.

That is why Stuart has ignored club rivalry to urge Wests Tigers management to appoint Tim Sheens as head coach for the next two seasons.

And Stuart’s support of Sheens was immediately shared by Raiders legends, Laurie Daley and Mal Meninga.

The push for Sheens, 71, to take over at Concord from next year is gathering momentum.

Well-placed sources claim the club hasn’t formally asked Sheens to take over – but won’t rule out the possibility either. Stuart, Daley and Meninga won premierships at Canberra in 1989, 1990 and 1994 under Sheens as head coach.

Sheens has support to be named head coach while mentoring a development coach to take over, possibly in 2025.

“I think the environment at Wests Tigers is for a coach that is experienced, can handle the politics from above and has the ability not to listen to any outside noise. And that’s Tim,” Stuart said.

“It’s not a job for a young or inexperienced coach. Tim’s not using it as leverage. You would think it would be his last-ever coaching gig and he won’t succumb to outside pressures.

“The thoroughness of Tim Sheens’ preparation and the passion he has for a club, not just the NRL team but the whole club, the juniors, pathways, is what Wests Tigers need.

“They don’t need a coach in there who will just hinge on the result of the NRL team. They need a coach who is going to build that club for the future.

“Unfortunately, they have got themselves in a position where they need that.”

Daley added: “Tim is one of the greatest coaches of all time. No one knows football better than him when it comes to knowledge.

“He could do it for two or three years while mentoring a young coach. Tim could wear the bruises over that time compared to a young coach. Why wouldn’t you get him to coach when he is there already?

“You ask all the Raiders players about their careers and they will tell you what an impact Tim had on everyone. We wouldn’t have been the players we were or had the success we had without him.”

Wests Tigers missed out on No.1 target Cameron Ciraldo and continue to discuss a range of potential coaches including Brett Kimmorley, Andrew Webster, Shane Flanagan, Stephen Kearney, Dean Young, John Morris, Jason Ryles, Josh Hannay, Kristian Woolf, David Furner and Steve Price.

The current Wests Tigers head of football, Sheens is widely regarded as one of the finest coaches of the modern era, winning three grand finals at Canberra, one more at Wests Tigers while also coaching NSW and Australia.

“Tim would do a great job. I don’t think there’s any reason why Tim can’t (coach Wests Tigers),” Meninga said.

“Maybe under a model where he coaches for a few years and brings along a younger coach at the same time who then takes over. Tim could take control for a few years and then bring on the next coach.

“Tim taught me a fair bit about footy, which was good. And then he gave me the captaincy (at Canberra), which improved my game. He taught me how to be a leader. He put his faith in me.”

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Posted by: @garry

Now Ricky Stuart is telling us who should be coach.

 

That is why Stuart has ignored club rivalry to urge Wests Tigers management to appoint Tim Sheens as head coach for the next two seasons.

And instead is taking the subtle sabotage angle!


   
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Please... everyone suggesting Sheens should be the coach, please take a long hard look at what you are actually saying!

Some short memories on display, Sheenius stubbornness/ideas/selections might be our death knell this time around.


   
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Oh.my.God


   
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Sounds to me like Sheens has his surrogates out there campaigning for him to get the job.. 

Benji, Buzz (on 360) and now Ricky… 


   
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TBH I’d take sheens over everyone on offer now.


   
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Posted by: @tigertownsfs

TBH I’d take sheens over everyone on offer now.

i would prefer Morris with mentorship from Sheens.

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Posted by: @mattvtiger

Sounds to me like Sheens has his surrogates out there campaigning for him to get the job.. 

Benji, Buzz (on 360) and now Ricky… 

It looks that way.


   
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TBH I’d take sheens over everyone on offer now.

i would prefer Morris with mentorship from Sheens.

This could be good. Morris has been a head coach for a few years so it sure he would accept a head coach over him. 


   
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Posted by: @garry
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TBH I’d take sheens over everyone on offer now.

i would prefer Morris with mentorship from Sheens.

I think this approach works (whether it is Morris or someone else). We have tried the ‘keys to the castle’ approach with both Cleary and Maguire. It hasn’t worked. 

A different approach is needed. A younger guy to connect with the players and the older disciplinarian to keep things in order. 


   
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