I think Madge is in the same company as Arthur and Sticky: a good coach no doubt but not good enough or innovative enough to really evolve or change the game or with the game.
im thankful for what he did for the club and the genuine care he had for turning the club around as well as healing some of the wounds of the pst (bringing Robbie and Benji back). But I’m very happy we have moved on and from listening to sheens speak about what he wants from the team and club I think we made the right call to part ways now.
This is going to sound incredibly harsh but i'm not thankful at all. I am a lifelong fan and it was the least enjoyable 3.5 years i've ever had supporting the club. Tuning in every week to watch Madgeball was torture. I'm sure he's a nice guy but he was a disaster here and getting rid of him was the best move the club has made in years.
I have to agree. Under Madge we played a very predictable boring style of football week in week out. Twal taking a hit up on the fifth to set up for a bomb was plain annoying. Having said that, I was a Madge supporter as I thought we needed a coach that would bring a hard edge, but he was just too one dimensional and our plays were easily read by the opposition.
I am glad we moved on, we are seeing more ball movement and more second phase play.
Brett Kimmorley concedes taking on the interim Wests Tigers job could come back to haunt him and cruel his own NRL head coaching aspirations.
Kimmorley finishes his role on Sunday afternoon against Canberra in what is likely to be an 11th loss in 12 games since he took over from the sacked Michael Maguire.
Most Tigers fans will feel sympathy for Kimmorley, who has been left to run the show while incoming coach Tim Sheens keeps a noticeable distance from the club’s worst campaign in history.
Sheens has had so little to do with Kimmorley that the pair have barely spoken, despite working under the same roof at the club’s Concord base.
The 45-year-old Kimmorley took on the job with the hope of being seriously considered for the role on a permanent basis, only for the club to announce Sheens would be head coach with Tigers legend Benji Marshall to succeed him in 2025.
Kimmorley refuses to accept he was made the Tigers’ scapegoat, but does admit it might set him back landing a top job.
“People will judge and say, ‘You’ve made no difference, you’ve won one out of 11 games’, and say that it’s been a poor performance that’s finished ugly,” Kimmorley told The Sun-Herald.
“But it was also an opportunity I’m thankful for, and I’ll be a better coach for it. I won’t say with hindsight I shouldn’t have done it because I’ve loved this opportunity.
“It’s been draining, that’s for sure. You’re disconnected from your family and partner for a couple of days after a bad performance, and it’s hard to let it go. As a player, you could get over a result quickly.
“Tim has helped with bits and pieces.
“I like to think come November 1 the club is in a better position than it was when I got the job 12 weeks ago when it was a bit broken.”
Kimmorley will retain a coaching position at the Tigers in 2023, but assistants Nathan Cayless and Ben Gardiner have already been told their services are not required, while it remains to be seen what happens to well-known trainer Ronnie Palmer.
“Sometimes it’s flown, sometimes it’s gone extremely slow,” Kimmorley said.
“It’s something I’ve always wanted to do, and it’s something I still have aspirations to do.
“It’s been an eye-opener, but I’ve stayed true to what I believe in and how I’ve spoken to the players – I’ve never sugar-coated or bullshitted them.”
Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe said of Kimmorley being left to fend for himself: “I spoke with ‘Noddy’ on Monday about how challenging and tough it has been, but 12 months ago he would have never thought he’d have an opportunity to be a head coach of an NRL side.
“He’s done an outstanding job and a credit to his professionalism, and I’m sure he’s had some wonderful learning that will hold him in good stead.
“Tim has been respectful of the head coach and the assistants, has kept working behind the scenes and been available for any support or advice when needed.”
Meanwhile, Sheens will help Italy at the World Cup, but in an advisory role that will not require him to attend the tournament in England, which allows him to prepare for one of the club’s most vital pre-seasons.
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I’m glad Sheens and Benji have had nothing to do with this.
New Era starts Nov 1
I’m glad Sheens and Benji have had nothing to do with this.
New Era starts Nov 1
Sheens absolutely had something todo with this season. He was responsible for the coaching decisions, not sacking, then sacking mid-season, then putting Kimmorley as interim coach. The Wooden Spoon belongs to Tim Sheens.
I’m glad Sheens and Benji have had nothing to do with this.
New Era starts Nov 1
Sheens absolutely had something todo with this season. He was responsible for the coaching decisions, not sacking, then sacking mid-season, then putting Kimmorley as interim coach. The Wooden Spoon belongs to Tim Sheens.
Yes he called the shots and no doubt the spoon resulted from his decisions but this season was dead anyway. 16th or 9th it’s just more failure. What counts is whether next year we are better off
I’m glad Sheens and Benji have had nothing to do with this.
New Era starts Nov 1
Sheens absolutely had something todo with this season. He was responsible for the coaching decisions, not sacking, then sacking mid-season, then putting Kimmorley as interim coach. The Wooden Spoon belongs to Tim Sheens.
Yes he called the shots and no doubt the spoon resulted from his decisions but this season was dead anyway. 16th or 9th it’s just more failure. What counts is whether next year we are better off
Not convinced we are with Sheens in charge of everything. His decision making has proven to be extremely poor.
I’m glad Sheens and Benji have had nothing to do with this.
New Era starts Nov 1
Sheens absolutely had something todo with this season. He was responsible for the coaching decisions, not sacking, then sacking mid-season, then putting Kimmorley as interim coach. The Wooden Spoon belongs to Tim Sheens.
Yes he called the shots and no doubt the spoon resulted from his decisions but this season was dead anyway. 16th or 9th it’s just more failure. What counts is whether next year we are better off
Not convinced we are with Sheens in charge of everything. His decision making has proven to be extremely poor.
Jury is out on this point. Sacking Madge was a good decision. I’m still hopeful that the recruiting situation will improve Nov 1 and I think it’s very positive sheens had nothing to do with kimmorley because it means the selections, bench rotation and game strategies were kimmorleys alone and not sheens pulling the strings. We have been terrible this entire year, with Madge and kimmorley both so if sheens has literally barely spoken to kimmorley then I still have hope next year can be a dramatic change
I’m glad Sheens and Benji have had nothing to do with this.
New Era starts Nov 1
Sheens absolutely had something todo with this season. He was responsible for the coaching decisions, not sacking, then sacking mid-season, then putting Kimmorley as interim coach. The Wooden Spoon belongs to Tim Sheens.
Yes he called the shots and no doubt the spoon resulted from his decisions but this season was dead anyway. 16th or 9th it’s just more failure. What counts is whether next year we are better off
Not convinced we are with Sheens in charge of everything. His decision making has proven to be extremely poor.
Jury is out on this point. Sacking Madge was a good decision. I’m still hopeful that the recruiting situation will improve Nov 1 and I think it’s very positive sheens had nothing to do with kimmorley because it means the selections, bench rotation and game strategies were kimmorleys alone and not sheens pulling the strings. We have been terrible this entire year, with Madge and kimmorley both so if sheens has literally barely spoken to kimmorley then I still have hope next year can be a dramatic change
Sheens appointed him. He had everything todo with the disaster that was the 2nd half of the season: The Wooden Spoon belongs to Sheens and his poor decisions.
Former Tigers premiership winner sacked from UK coaching job
After two years at the helm of Super League side Hull FC, former Wests Tigers, Parramatta and Western Suburbs fullback Brett Hodgson and the club have parted ways ‘by mutual consent’.
Hodgson, who had worked with the club as a coaching consultant ahead of the 2013 campaign, was promoted to the Hull FC head coaching job after a stint back home in Australia as head coach of the Western Suburbs NSW Cup team.
Though the start of his time in the top job saw his side lose just two of their opening seven matches, difficult times soon followed, with the club missing the finals despite their strong start.
This year ended in similar fashion for Hodgson’s team, winning just one of their final five games as they slid from the cusp of the finals places to a ninth-placed finish.
The cherry on top was the last-day humiliation at the hands of rivals Hull Kingston-Rovers, with the 36-4 drubbing leaving Hodgson to lament his team’s performance.
“Disappointing is the least descriptive word you could use for that performance – I’m disgusted we put in a performance like that,” Hodgson admitted after the game.
“We’ve had a tough end to the season and this performance sums up our back end of the year. For us as a collective to not get up for this game is not okay.
“We’ll be in next week to review what went wrong before the players break for the off-season.”
While Hodgson will no longer take part in that end-of-year review, club chairman Adam Pearson was full of praise for the outgoing coach.
“On behalf of the board, staff and supporters of Hull FC, I’d like to thank Brett for the commitment and dignity he demonstrated in his two years with the club," he said.
“Brett joined us during a period of transition and the disruption caused by COVID, as well as facing further challenges presented by injuries and suspensions.”
Having revelled in his last return to Campbelltown, there are already suggestions that Hodgson could move straight back to Sydney’s south-west as part of Tim Sheens’ coaching staff which already consists of club legends Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah.
Former Tigers premiership winner sacked from UK coaching job
After two years at the helm of Super League side Hull FC, former Wests Tigers, Parramatta and Western Suburbs fullback Brett Hodgson and the club have parted ways ‘by mutual consent’.
Hodgson, who had worked with the club as a coaching consultant ahead of the 2013 campaign, was promoted to the Hull FC head coaching job after a stint back home in Australia as head coach of the Western Suburbs NSW Cup team.
Though the start of his time in the top job saw his side lose just two of their opening seven matches, difficult times soon followed, with the club missing the finals despite their strong start.
This year ended in similar fashion for Hodgson’s team, winning just one of their final five games as they slid from the cusp of the finals places to a ninth-placed finish.
The cherry on top was the last-day humiliation at the hands of rivals Hull Kingston-Rovers, with the 36-4 drubbing leaving Hodgson to lament his team’s performance.
“Disappointing is the least descriptive word you could use for that performance – I’m disgusted we put in a performance like that,” Hodgson admitted after the game.
“We’ve had a tough end to the season and this performance sums up our back end of the year. For us as a collective to not get up for this game is not okay.
“We’ll be in next week to review what went wrong before the players break for the off-season.”
While Hodgson will no longer take part in that end-of-year review, club chairman Adam Pearson was full of praise for the outgoing coach.
“On behalf of the board, staff and supporters of Hull FC, I’d like to thank Brett for the commitment and dignity he demonstrated in his two years with the club," he said.
“Brett joined us during a period of transition and the disruption caused by COVID, as well as facing further challenges presented by injuries and suspensions.”
Having revelled in his last return to Campbelltown, there are already suggestions that Hodgson could move straight back to Sydney’s south-west as part of Tim Sheens’ coaching staff which already consists of club legends Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah.
Isnt Hodgos wife french? I thought I remember reading they intended to stay in Europe?
Former Tigers premiership winner sacked from UK coaching job
After two years at the helm of Super League side Hull FC, former Wests Tigers, Parramatta and Western Suburbs fullback Brett Hodgson and the club have parted ways ‘by mutual consent’.
Hodgson, who had worked with the club as a coaching consultant ahead of the 2013 campaign, was promoted to the Hull FC head coaching job after a stint back home in Australia as head coach of the Western Suburbs NSW Cup team.
Though the start of his time in the top job saw his side lose just two of their opening seven matches, difficult times soon followed, with the club missing the finals despite their strong start.
This year ended in similar fashion for Hodgson’s team, winning just one of their final five games as they slid from the cusp of the finals places to a ninth-placed finish.
The cherry on top was the last-day humiliation at the hands of rivals Hull Kingston-Rovers, with the 36-4 drubbing leaving Hodgson to lament his team’s performance.
“Disappointing is the least descriptive word you could use for that performance – I’m disgusted we put in a performance like that,” Hodgson admitted after the game.
“We’ve had a tough end to the season and this performance sums up our back end of the year. For us as a collective to not get up for this game is not okay.
“We’ll be in next week to review what went wrong before the players break for the off-season.”
While Hodgson will no longer take part in that end-of-year review, club chairman Adam Pearson was full of praise for the outgoing coach.
“On behalf of the board, staff and supporters of Hull FC, I’d like to thank Brett for the commitment and dignity he demonstrated in his two years with the club," he said.
“Brett joined us during a period of transition and the disruption caused by COVID, as well as facing further challenges presented by injuries and suspensions.”
Having revelled in his last return to Campbelltown, there are already suggestions that Hodgson could move straight back to Sydney’s south-west as part of Tim Sheens’ coaching staff which already consists of club legends Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah.
Isnt Hodgos wife french? I thought I remember reading they intended to stay in Europe?
His family stayed in Europe last time that he was coaching out here.
In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)
That will do me if Hogo returns to the Tigers …he is in the Kimmorely vain coaching an elite team is way above there station ! Some new coaching blood needs to be brought into the club already have 2 coaches without coaching accreditation , and a Joe Biden type head coach things only get better .
I think Hodgo would be the perfect mentor for Laurie who I see as the Hodgo you get when you buy from Wish.com, but I hope he lives his best life with the family in France.
Not sure about Hodgo in a coaching role. Success hasn't exactly followed him in these roles!
'This year ended in similar fashion for Hodgson’s team, winning just one of their final five games as they slid from the cusp of the finals places to a ninth-placed finish.'
Wow - does that sound somewhat familiar??
Not sure about Hodgo in a coaching role. Success hasn't exactly followed him in these roles!
'This year ended in similar fashion for Hodgson’s team, winning just one of their final five games as they slid from the cusp of the finals places to a ninth-placed finish.'
Wow - does that sound somewhat familiar??
9th has never seemed so far away.
