They are doing it to me again, I am starting to believe! Haha!
This club is such a rollercoaster and even more so at the moment. I am really starting to believe in Benji becoming a coach because of his relationship with players and the coaches he has been coached by.
A big-name signing would give this new regime some real credibility. No idea who but.
I’ll believe when I see the results. At the moment all Sheens has guaranteed is the wooden spoon for 2022.
I enjoyed that interview. The way he speaks gives me a lot of confidence moving forward.
https://twitter.com/nedhallsport/status/1548562716930953216?s=21&t=sI2Em4OLYqf9C4Gbg1qZKw
Very interesting listen
On Brooks he makes a point of saying he's the fastest in the club (and tries to emphasises the importance of speed) but then says "its not his fault he's got a backended contract."
I can stomach having Hastings and Doueihi in the halves as long as we get some big front rowers. Everyone seems to be running this line about Hastings & AD as being too slow to play 6 & 7 but both players are absolutely first class operators especially if they have time and space.
Punt Brooks and find a big name prop?
Brooks certainly seems like a guaranteed starter based on this interview. Comforting to hear Tim confident that Papalii is coming
https://twitter.com/nedhallsport/status/1548562716930953216?s=21&t=sI2Em4OLYqf9C4Gbg1qZKw
Very interesting listen
On Brooks he makes a point of saying he's the fastest in the club (and tries to emphasises the importance of speed) but then says "its not his fault he's got a backended contract."
I can stomach having Hastings and Doueihi in the halves as long as we get some big front rowers. Everyone seems to be running this line about Hastings & AD as being too slow to play 6 & 7 but both players are absolutely first class operators especially if they have time and space.
Punt Brooks and find a big name prop?
Saifiti brothers for Brooks?
Wests Tigers Podcast - Talking everything Wests Tigers!
https://www.rugbyleagueeyetest.com/2022/07/18/what-the-bulldogs-are-doing-better-under-potter/
an interesting analysis of how the Bulldogs have changed under Potter. Would be great to compare how the tigers have performed with Noddy vs Madge.
too many emerging coaches seem to favour this conservative style, perhaps this is a reflection of the high stakes of being a rookie coach and the odds that if you fail you never return.
https://www.rugbyleagueeyetest.com/2022/07/18/what-the-bulldogs-are-doing-better-under-potter/
an interesting analysis of how the Bulldogs have changed under Potter. Would be great to compare how the tigers have performed with Noddy vs Madge.
too many emerging coaches seem to favour this conservative style, perhaps this is a reflection of the high stakes of being a rookie coach and the odds that if you fail you never return.
ITs an interesting analysis and you raise an interesting point. My theory would be that when a Barrett or Madge take over a struggling team (although Madge took over a team just outside the 8), the instinctive reaction is to "tighten them up". Stop mistakes, stop the defensive lapses. Maybe the more effective way is to attack first and get on the front foot and this seems to be borne out by Payten and Potter and to an extent Sheens 20years ago (and now?).
Another thing that sticks out in that analysis and by watching our games with my own eyes is field position is the killer for us. Increased attack may again be the answer in order to break down defenses and try to make sure we dont start EVERY set 5m out.
Michael Maguire has weighed in on the Wests Tigers coaching succession plan, admitting it will be a challenge for the club moving forward.
After being sacked by the Tigers back in June, Maguire has stayed reasonably quiet as he turns his attention to his other job - coaching the Kiwis in the upcoming Rugby League World Cup.
But in an interview on The Back Page, Maguire was quizzed on the plan to have Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall take charge at Concord - and he didn't exactly give a ringing endorsement.
“There’s many ways to do it...I’m looking forward to seeing how it plays out," he said.
"I just think coaching is about spending time actually coaching.
"They’ve got a couple of rookies that are going to come through. That’s going to be a great challenge for the guys coming through in Benji and Robbie (Farah).
"I think they are qualified because of the experiences they’ve had, but coaching isn’t just about what happens there. It’s life, it’s about the player and looking after the quality of each individual.
"It’s going to be a good challenge for them, but there’s many ways to do it."
Maguire has over 300 games of first grade coaching experience from his time in both the NRL and Super League competitions, but his tenure at the Tigers unfortunately failed to deliver much success.
But despite a tough run the past few years, Maguire is still determined to return to a full-time job and win another premiership.
“I’ve taken a bit of a backwards step at the moment - I’m just really focused on the Kiwis and I’m really enjoying that part, because you don’t have the heat of the week-in, week-out," he said.
"But I do miss that – that’s something there that has always fuelled myself, the challenge of each week.
"I’m starting to learn what it’s like to have a weekend on your own and have the family there.
"I’m just eyes wide open at the moment – I do love it as I have always stated and I want to win another comp. To be in that arena, that’s definitely something that is a desire.
“There is so much that goes on. You’ve got your players, but that’s only a real small part of what goes on as a head coach.
"I don’t know what the right number is – it depends on what organisation you work in – but it might be 30 per-cent of your job.
"The other 70 per-cent is everything else around that goes on, and the making of your club allows you to focus a little bit more on your coaching, which is the key."
Maguire will lead a star-studded New Zealand outfit when the RLWC kicks off this October.
Wests Tigers Podcast - Talking everything Wests Tigers!
Michael Maguire has weighed in on the Wests Tigers coaching succession plan, admitting it will be a challenge for the club moving forward.
After being sacked by the Tigers back in June, Maguire has stayed reasonably quiet as he turns his attention to his other job - coaching the Kiwis in the upcoming Rugby League World Cup.
But in an interview on The Back Page, Maguire was quizzed on the plan to have Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall take charge at Concord - and he didn't exactly give a ringing endorsement.
“There’s many ways to do it...I’m looking forward to seeing how it plays out," he said.
"I just think coaching is about spending time actually coaching.
"They’ve got a couple of rookies that are going to come through. That’s going to be a great challenge for the guys coming through in Benji and Robbie (Farah).
"I think they are qualified because of the experiences they’ve had, but coaching isn’t just about what happens there. It’s life, it’s about the player and looking after the quality of each individual.
"It’s going to be a good challenge for them, but there’s many ways to do it."
Maguire has over 300 games of first grade coaching experience from his time in both the NRL and Super League competitions, but his tenure at the Tigers unfortunately failed to deliver much success.
But despite a tough run the past few years, Maguire is still determined to return to a full-time job and win another premiership.
“I’ve taken a bit of a backwards step at the moment - I’m just really focused on the Kiwis and I’m really enjoying that part, because you don’t have the heat of the week-in, week-out," he said.
"But I do miss that – that’s something there that has always fuelled myself, the challenge of each week.
"I’m starting to learn what it’s like to have a weekend on your own and have the family there.
"I’m just eyes wide open at the moment – I do love it as I have always stated and I want to win another comp. To be in that arena, that’s definitely something that is a desire.
“There is so much that goes on. You’ve got your players, but that’s only a real small part of what goes on as a head coach.
"I don’t know what the right number is – it depends on what organisation you work in – but it might be 30 per-cent of your job.
"The other 70 per-cent is everything else around that goes on, and the making of your club allows you to focus a little bit more on your coaching, which is the key."
Maguire will lead a star-studded New Zealand outfit when the RLWC kicks off this October.
Madge has stay relatively respectful and I genuinely think he has a place for the Tigers in his heart, but this section is a subtle (and probably well deserved) dig at the club. FWIW I think the Club is learning lessons from the mistakes it has made. The last podcast with Steve & Garry talking about the interview with Lee gave great insights into the clubs thinking and Im convinced that they are planning well. The implementation will be the key.
I think Madge is in the same company as Arthur and Sticky: a good coach no doubt but not good enough or innovative enough to really evolve or change the game or with the game.
im thankful for what he did for the club and the genuine care he had for turning the club around as well as healing some of the wounds of the pst (bringing Robbie and Benji back). But I’m very happy we have moved on and from listening to sheens speak about what he wants from the team and club I think we made the right call to part ways now.
I think Madge is in the same company as Arthur and Sticky: a good coach no doubt but not good enough or innovative enough to really evolve or change the game or with the game.
im thankful for what he did for the club and the genuine care he had for turning the club around as well as healing some of the wounds of the pst (bringing Robbie and Benji back). But I’m very happy we have moved on and from listening to sheens speak about what he wants from the team and club I think we made the right call to part ways now.
In hindsight I think we have made the right decision moving Madge on, but I actually think Arthur and Sticky have achieved great things. 4years ago Parra got the spoon and have been a genuine contender since. Canberra would have to be the least attractive club to play with and Sticky has done well to drag together a competitive squad and were in a GF 3 years ago and a prelim final 2 years ago. I'd settle for the type of failure Parra and Canberra have had the last few years.
Madge has stay relatively respectful and I genuinely think he has a place for the Tigers in his heart, but this section is a subtle (and probably well deserved) dig at the club. FWIW I think the Club is learning lessons from the mistakes it has made. The last podcast with Steve & Garry talking about the interview with Lee gave great insights into the clubs thinking and Im convinced that they are planning well. The implementation will be the key.
I think we all agree Madge has always appeared a good and honest bloke, even in defeat. And more than anything, it just didn't work out over his tenure, not that it was a bad decision and not that any obvious mistakes were made... it just didn't work out as we hoped.
this is a fair assessment . To me it looked like he had something cooking prior to Covid , then uncle Pete came in , changed the rules , and returned the game to watch more attacking. This kind of screwed Madge a bit . But yea he couldn’t adjust .
I also think there was an element in the club who has/had large tickets on themselves and couldn’t handle the simplification of the game mixed in with getting yelled at .
I think Madge is in the same company as Arthur and Sticky: a good coach no doubt but not good enough or innovative enough to really evolve or change the game or with the game.
im thankful for what he did for the club and the genuine care he had for turning the club around as well as healing some of the wounds of the pst (bringing Robbie and Benji back). But I’m very happy we have moved on and from listening to sheens speak about what he wants from the team and club I think we made the right call to part ways now.
This is going to sound incredibly harsh but i'm not thankful at all. I am a lifelong fan and it was the least enjoyable 3.5 years i've ever had supporting the club. Tuning in every week to watch Madgeball was torture. I'm sure he's a nice guy but he was a disaster here and getting rid of him was the best move the club has made in years.
How on hell could Maguire say squat .. he had 3.5yrs of failure and the team was going south . The team never looked coached ,players where going backwards there never was any improvement anywhere.. if he coached the side to at least one finals series he might have something to complain about not having a team progressively worse than the season before .He is gone I am happy 👍
