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@jedi-tiger There is no way Benji will quit Fox it would be very unwise .. the sugar hit from the past will not last long . Sheens selections are already rubbish , jobs for the boys . Some of us do have long memories do not get excited about all of this as it’s not going to end well !

After watching Benji last night on 360 my thoughts were that he was very keen and jobs like these don’t come past very often

He was extremely keen. Basically he wants a golden path to a first grade coaching gig and to be mentored under sheens to do it is basically a once in a lifetime opportunity. I’m not sure it will work but Benji has been under a few good coaches (notably Bennet and sheens) and he’s obviously highly intelligent. He obviously is a highly confident person and perhaps he sees himself more as a Bennet style man manager who can build a good culture and get a team dynamic happening. No idea if he could actually do it in practice but i would take sheens/Benji combo over another junior coach who comes through the usual roosters/storm pathway. We don’t have the club setup to be successful with those types (Taylor, madge, O’Brien etc). 

 


   
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So I'm sitting at a cafe having milkshake with my daughter. She was at the q and a Tim gave at Wests Ashfield, she has just piped up and said I think Tim Sheens will be a good coach because when he spoke he said that he set the players targets and goals for them to improve. Maybe we should put her on the board.

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Bozza on SEN said about tigers:

If you don't have a vision for the future, you reminisce about the past

He said that fabs are smart and you can't treat them as mugs - so if Sheens doesn't work - WT admin need a clear plan to respond

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CAINE’S LEFT-FIELD OPTION FOR WESTS TIGERS COACHING GIG

 

BY LACHLAN GELEIT 4 HOURS AGO

 

Former Wests Tigers outside back Joel Caine doesn’t believe Tim Sheens is the right option to take over at Concord.

 

While Sheens led the Tigers to the NRL premiership in 2005, Caine believes things have moved in a different direction since he last headed the club as coach in 2012.

 

Caine instead believes the Tigers need to follow Brisbane’s blueprint by keeping Sheens in an overarching role with a club legend coaching the side underneath him.

 

“Him coming back to the club is one of the best things that’s happened to us, but not to be the coach,” Caine SEN 1170 The Run Home.

 

“The game moves so fast, so who’s going to be the coach then?

 

“I’ve been thinking about this, I thought about the likes of (Anthony) Siebold, (Shane) Flanagan and all of those names.

 

“But I believe the Wests Tigers are now like the Broncos, there’s too many big personalities in and around the club and if they don’t like what they’re seeing it’s getting to the media and blowing up the joint.

 

“What the Broncos did with getting ‘Kevvie’ (Kevin Walters) there and the likes of Ben Ikin – which Sheens can be the Tigers’ version of – no one’s potting them anymore, and we’re starting to see the benefits of it. The club has been left alone.”

 

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With an ex-Tiger the man for the role, Caine ruled out two options that would’ve been near the top of his list if they were available.

 

“So, then you say, it has to be an ex-Tiger,” Caine said.

 

“I immediately think you do everything you can to get Todd Payten, but I don’t know if you can do that.

 

“Then I think, ‘Ok, what about Brett Hodgson who’s coaching overseas?’, but he’s got family in France, and I’d be surprised if he left Europe away from his family and kids to come back.”

 

With Payten and Hodgson likely out of the question, Caine floated the left-field idea of going with current Penrith staffer and former Tigers back Shane Elford, despite the 44-year-old having no coaching experience.

 

“So, I’ve got a jewel in the rough,” Caine said.

 

“Craig Bellamy and Trent Robinson both came through initially with no high ambitions to coach but came in as high-performance managers.

 

“That’s their schtick, ‘Robbo’ was offered to go and be the high-performance manager at the Western Force before taking a coaching job in France.

 

“So, who I’ve got, with Sheens mentoring him, this bloke has a high IQ, he’s very presentable, very likable and very, very sharp – Shane Elford I’m looking at you.”

 

With Elford as Caine’s choice for coach and Sheens overlooking him, Caine believes fellow ex-Tigers Benji Marshall and Ben Galea should be hired as assistants.

 

“Shane Elford, who’s got the osmosis of being in and around the Penrith Panthers. He’s got the Panthers in as good a shape as we’ve ever seen any team,” Caine said.

 

“You get Sheens overlooking him, you get Benji (Marshall) helping out with attack and Ben Galea would be the guy I’d go for in defence.”

 

While Sheens isn’t Caine’s preference, reports suggest the 71-year-old has already agreed to terms to take over at Concord on a two-year deal.

 

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/13/caines-left-field-option-for-wests-tigers-coaching-gig/

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VIC 

 

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VICTORIANEW SOUTH WALESQUEENSLANDSOUTH AUSTRALIAWESTERN AUSTRALIATASMANIA

 

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NRL

 

CAINE’S LEFT-FIELD OPTION FOR WESTS TIGERS COACHING GIG

 

BY LACHLAN GELEIT 4 HOURS AGO

 

Former Wests Tigers outside back Joel Caine doesn’t believe Tim Sheens is the right option to take over at Concord.

 

While Sheens led the Tigers to the NRL premiership in 2005, Caine believes things have moved in a different direction since he last headed the club as coach in 2012.

 

Caine instead believes the Tigers need to follow Brisbane’s blueprint by keeping Sheens in an overarching role with a club legend coaching the side underneath him.

 

“Him coming back to the club is one of the best things that’s happened to us, but not to be the coach,” Caine SEN 1170 The Run Home.

 

“The game moves so fast, so who’s going to be the coach then?

 

“I’ve been thinking about this, I thought about the likes of (Anthony) Siebold, (Shane) Flanagan and all of those names.

 

“But I believe the Wests Tigers are now like the Broncos, there’s too many big personalities in and around the club and if they don’t like what they’re seeing it’s getting to the media and blowing up the joint.

 

“What the Broncos did with getting ‘Kevvie’ (Kevin Walters) there and the likes of Ben Ikin – which Sheens can be the Tigers’ version of – no one’s potting them anymore, and we’re starting to see the benefits of it. The club has been left alone.”

 

Cam Another Win

 

0 seconds of 43 seconds

 

 

 

With an ex-Tiger the man for the role, Caine ruled out two options that would’ve been near the top of his list if they were available.

 

“So, then you say, it has to be an ex-Tiger,” Caine said.

 

“I immediately think you do everything you can to get Todd Payten, but I don’t know if you can do that.

 

“Then I think, ‘Ok, what about Brett Hodgson who’s coaching overseas?’, but he’s got family in France, and I’d be surprised if he left Europe away from his family and kids to come back.”

 

With Payten and Hodgson likely out of the question, Caine floated the left-field idea of going with current Penrith staffer and former Tigers back Shane Elford, despite the 44-year-old having no coaching experience.

 

“So, I’ve got a jewel in the rough,” Caine said.

 

“Craig Bellamy and Trent Robinson both came through initially with no high ambitions to coach but came in as high-performance managers.

 

“That’s their schtick, ‘Robbo’ was offered to go and be the high-performance manager at the Western Force before taking a coaching job in France.

 

“So, who I’ve got, with Sheens mentoring him, this bloke has a high IQ, he’s very presentable, very likable and very, very sharp – Shane Elford I’m looking at you.”

 

With Elford as Caine’s choice for coach and Sheens overlooking him, Caine believes fellow ex-Tigers Benji Marshall and Ben Galea should be hired as assistants.

 

“Shane Elford, who’s got the osmosis of being in and around the Penrith Panthers. He’s got the Panthers in as good a shape as we’ve ever seen any team,” Caine said.

 

“You get Sheens overlooking him, you get Benji (Marshall) helping out with attack and Ben Galea would be the guy I’d go for in defence.”

 

While Sheens isn’t Caine’s preference, reports suggest the 71-year-old has already agreed to terms to take over at Concord on a two-year deal.

 

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/13/caines-left-field-option-for-wests-tigers-coaching-gig/

I think the Assistants will be doing a lot of the coaching with strong direction from Sheens anyway.

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What do you think about Caines suggestion of Elford and/or Galea 

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What do you think about Caines suggestion of Elford and/or Galea 

As head coach?

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What do you think about Caines suggestion of Elford and/or Galea 

Not sure about Galea but I’d love to have Elford back in our colours.

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What do you think about Caines suggestion of Elford and/or Galea 

Not sure about Galea but I’d love to have Elford back in our colours.

Elford is extremely entrenched in the Panthers systems, having been there under multiple head coaches.

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Can we sign Billy Slater as our coach already!


   
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Posted by: @tigerlily

Can we sign Billy Slater as our coach already!

He said yesterday he has no interest in coaching NRL 

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Posted by: @tigerlily

Can we sign Billy Slater as our coach already!

We just sacked a coach that can only win two games a year 😆😂😆

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What do you think about Caines suggestion of Elford and/or Galea 

As a coach I think its a rubbish idea, but as a "high performance manager" or some sort of fitness guy, it would be great to get Elford. We are getting the band back together and the fact he has been plugged into that Pamfers system cant hurt.

 


   
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@yanni most coaches have been sacked for one or another. My point is that sheens has not coach in the Nrl for 10 years and his time in the England was not a great success. 


   
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