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Posted by: @jedi-tiger

if cowboys take him now can we not take Brooks remaining salary and use it and to bump up tupou or TDS etc?

We frontload guys every year, soon everyone will be playing for free.

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Looks like it’s happening.

are we getting townsend ?

 

Nothing reported on that at that the moment.

 

he should go this year if cowboys have room, we can use the cash elsewhere 

 

 

yeah we've got plenty of halfback options....lets get rid of one this year.

 

he is injured for 6 weeks anyway 

 

So when did you plan to send him to NQ? you think we should wait until we actually have a halfback option available before we get rid of it?

 


   
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he should go this year if cowboys have room, we can use the cash elsewhere 

 

We can't spend the money we already have.

if cowboys take him now can we not take Brooks remaining salary and use it and to bump up tupou or TDS etc?

 

I’m not a fan of front loading contacts. It doesn’t work because players have short memories. 

 

 

i agree with you, but we have to spend 95% of the cap each year (NRL Rules) and I am not a fan of spending $11M on $8m-$9m worth of roster, so for the last few years Im glad they are frontloading as the alternative is to over spend on our rubbish roster. Clearly the roster is getting better but still not there year (stating the obvious we need some halves).

 


   
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i agree with you, but we have to spend 95% of the cap each year (NRL Rules) and I am not a fan of spending $11M on $8m-$9m worth of roster, so for the last few years Im glad they are frontloading as the alternative is to over spend on our rubbish roster. Clearly the roster is getting better but still not there year (stating the obvious we need some halves).

My point was more in response to Jedi saying we should let Brooks go now to use the money. I don't think we could use it if we tried, I'd think we already will be frontloading contracts.

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Looks like it’s happening.

All the best Luke. Now where is that 6 & 7 we need coming from?

 


   
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All the best Luke. Now where is that 6 & 7 we need coming from?

 

 

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Serious question:

Why would a player agree to be front loaded?

Wouldn't they pay a higher tax rate on the front loaded year?

And then they would have less weekly income on the reduced year, when usually the mortgage repayments and weekly expenses stay the same

I know it feels like monopoly money, but these decisions have real life impacts -

just interested if anyone knows more detail from a player perspective?

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Posted by: @tiger5150

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Posted by: @helmesy

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Looks like it’s happening.

are we getting townsend ?

 

Nothing reported on that at that the moment.

 

he should go this year if cowboys have room, we can use the cash elsewhere 

 

 

yeah we've got plenty of halfback options....lets get rid of one this year.

 

he is injured for 6 weeks anyway 

 

So when did you plan to send him to NQ? you think we should wait until we actually have a halfback option available before we get rid of it?

 

send him now mate we are not making the semis regardless 

 


   
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he should go this year if cowboys have room, we can use the cash elsewhere 

 

We can't spend the money we already have.

if cowboys take him now can we not take Brooks remaining salary and use it and to bump up tupou or TDS etc?

 

I’m not a fan of front loading contacts. It doesn’t work because players have short memories. 

 

they sure do but I am worried the big clubs will try and poach the likes of bula, tupou and Stef 

 


   
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Serious question:

Why would a player agree to be front loaded?

Wouldn't they pay a higher tax rate on the front loaded year?

And then they would have less weekly income on the reduced year, when usually the mortgage repayments and weekly expenses stay the same

I know it feels like monopoly money, but these decisions have real life impacts -

just interested if anyone knows more detail from a player perspective?

I don’t think it happens as much as we think.

Valid points Re tax, I guess the advantage to a player might be that it might be a deposit on a house or the like.

 

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@helmesy I thought it was just a clerical change? A way that the money is balanced in the cap eg. The over age loyalty payment . 
The taxman wouldn’t give 2 sides of Sunday whether 150k of it doesn’t apply to the cap or not . 
They would only care what the Gross  income is eg. Luke brooks 1.1m . 
It’s a sports administration thing. Not an ATO thing . As far as I know . 
So why couldn’t you balance the cap to suit whatever you need to . 
Otherwise , how do players leave early , come across early have payments split and stretched across years, between businesses ,if it required real input from the ATO.


   
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Maybe the money is paid at a different rate to the cap ie the idea is that you on average are within cap but the physical cash payment isn’t changed so there is no tax impact


   
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Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @tiger5150

Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @tiger5150

Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @helmesy

Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @helmesy

-- attachment is not available --

Looks like it’s happening.

are we getting townsend ?

 

Nothing reported on that at that the moment.

 

he should go this year if cowboys have room, we can use the cash elsewhere 

 

 

yeah we've got plenty of halfback options....lets get rid of one this year.

 

he is injured for 6 weeks anyway 

 

So when did you plan to send him to NQ? you think we should wait until we actually have a halfback option available before we get rid of it?

 

send him now mate we are not making the semis regardless 

 

 

Makes so much sense on so many levels. NQ would love to pay for Lukes rehab and have him on their sidelines under their cap and our revolutionary no halfback style of play can finally be unleashed.

 


   
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Posted by: @tiger5150

Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @tiger5150

Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @tiger5150

Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @helmesy

Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @helmesy

-- attachment is not available --

Looks like it’s happening.

are we getting townsend ?

 

Nothing reported on that at that the moment.

 

he should go this year if cowboys have room, we can use the cash elsewhere 

 

 

yeah we've got plenty of halfback options....lets get rid of one this year.

 

he is injured for 6 weeks anyway 

 

So when did you plan to send him to NQ? you think we should wait until we actually have a halfback option available before we get rid of it?

 

send him now mate we are not making the semis regardless 

 

 

Makes so much sense on so many levels. NQ would love to pay for Lukes rehab and have him on their sidelines under their cap and our revolutionary no halfback style of play can finally be unleashed.

 

who needs a halfback lol we will find out in 2024

 


   
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Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @tiger5150

Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @tiger5150

Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @tiger5150

Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @helmesy

Posted by: @jedi-tiger

Posted by: @helmesy

-- attachment is not available --

Looks like it’s happening.

are we getting townsend ?

 

Nothing reported on that at that the moment.

 

he should go this year if cowboys have room, we can use the cash elsewhere 

 

 

yeah we've got plenty of halfback options....lets get rid of one this year.

 

he is injured for 6 weeks anyway 

 

So when did you plan to send him to NQ? you think we should wait until we actually have a halfback option available before we get rid of it?

 

send him now mate we are not making the semis regardless 

 

 

Makes so much sense on so many levels. NQ would love to pay for Lukes rehab and have him on their sidelines under their cap and our revolutionary no halfback style of play can finally be unleashed.

 

who needs a halfback lol we will find out in 2024

 

 

Nah Im with you Jedi....why wait?

 


   
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