I’d like to pose the question,does Mitchell Moses deserve the status of the game’s highest paid player?I fail to see how.Granted he’s matured as a player over the last couple of years,but in my opinion he’s not an elite like Teddy or Munster.I’m of the view that we overpay at our peril.We’ve just cleared the decks and to be paying stupid money on a long contract is a little reminiscent of what we’ve just endured through Cleary’s handiwork and I realise you pay more for halfbacks…..
I’m of a mind to keep the powder dry,maintain the war chest and wait for someone to emerge over the next year.It’s a long season and something generally eventuates or some wunderkind creates new waves.We have lost out in a few negotiations and have potentially been played.Sometimes better to be prudent and keep walking,perhaps wipe the smile from Isaac Moses and flex a little muscle of our own.
I could be wrong,maybe Mitch Moses is of the 1.4 million calibre,but I’m in the cold feet department.
IMO the market is about to change significantly. If we get Moses on the money reported, he will be significantly overpaid at the start of his Contract and probably about right halfway through.
IMO Moses is not worth $1.4m per year, nor is he good enough to be the highest paid player in the game. Signing him for this figure may cause angst with the playing group as others will also want to be paid ‘overs’.
As a side note, I would be happy to pay this kind of money for a true marquee like Munster.
IMO Moses is not worth $1.4m per year, nor is he good enough to be the highest paid player in the game. Signing him for this figure may cause angst with the playing group as others will also want to be paid ‘overs’.
As a side note, I would be happy to pay this kind of money for a true marquee like Munster.
That also leads to an interesting point - if he doesn’t come, what are the implications on the existing players negotiating with the club?
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IMO Moses is not worth $1.4m per year, nor is he good enough to be the highest paid player in the game. Signing him for this figure may cause angst with the playing group as others will also want to be paid ‘overs’.
As a side note, I would be happy to pay this kind of money for a true marquee like Munster.
That also leads to an interesting point - if he doesn’t come, what are the implications on the existing players negotiating with the club?
Brooks may not like it, others probably not fussed.
You’ve made a good point but I differ in opinion to whether or not Bellamy would do the same. At Melbourne he wouldn’t but there is a chasm of difference between Melbourne Storm & Wests Tigers. If he was in the position of Benji Marshall would he be hoping the club does all they can to get a player he thinks believes will give him a good chance of success when he begins his coaching career?@helmesy No doubt it will impact on our recruitment/retention and I share your concern.I believe we’re putting a lot of eggs in one basket and possibly paying up to 400-500k overs.For a supposed pathways outfit it seems a little counter productive to me.
I think it’s also easy to be seduced by the drama of the actual negotiation as to viewing it dispassionately and objectively.I know as a lesser entity in the NRL pecking order we’re always going to pay a little more,but I could never see a Craig Bellamy paying this sort of freight unless it was a Slater or Cam Smith.Absolutely tried and tested.I don’t see Moses in the same light and he comes with a little excess baggage.Ultimately one can ask the question,is this a big compromise or gamble with our cap?Or can we afford to gamble to this level?
You’ve made a good point but I differ in opinion to whether or not Bellamy would do the same. At Melbourne he wouldn’t but there is a chasm of difference between Melbourne Storm & Wests Tigers. If he was in the position of Benji Marshall would he be hoping the club does all they can to get a player he thinks believes will give him a good chance of success when he begins his coaching career?@helmesy No doubt it will impact on our recruitment/retention and I share your concern.I believe we’re putting a lot of eggs in one basket and possibly paying up to 400-500k overs.For a supposed pathways outfit it seems a little counter productive to me.
I think it’s also easy to be seduced by the drama of the actual negotiation as to viewing it dispassionately and objectively.I know as a lesser entity in the NRL pecking order we’re always going to pay a little more,but I could never see a Craig Bellamy paying this sort of freight unless it was a Slater or Cam Smith.Absolutely tried and tested.I don’t see Moses in the same light and he comes with a little excess baggage.Ultimately one can ask the question,is this a big compromise or gamble with our cap?Or can we afford to gamble to this level?
But, one thing that is different since Sheens arrived back is the ability to attract quality first grade players. So, with a hopefully much more competitive team, and the continued introduction of good youngsters into the side, are we really that much of a gamble?
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In reality, Sheens has signed Will Smith, Brandon Wakeham and John Bateman (who is yet to arrive). Quality, you say? I disagree.You’ve made a good point but I differ in opinion to whether or not Bellamy would do the same. At Melbourne he wouldn’t but there is a chasm of difference between Melbourne Storm & Wests Tigers. If he was in the position of Benji Marshall would he be hoping the club does all they can to get a player he thinks believes will give him a good chance of success when he begins his coaching career?@helmesy No doubt it will impact on our recruitment/retention and I share your concern.I believe we’re putting a lot of eggs in one basket and possibly paying up to 400-500k overs.For a supposed pathways outfit it seems a little counter productive to me.
I think it’s also easy to be seduced by the drama of the actual negotiation as to viewing it dispassionately and objectively.I know as a lesser entity in the NRL pecking order we’re always going to pay a little more,but I could never see a Craig Bellamy paying this sort of freight unless it was a Slater or Cam Smith.Absolutely tried and tested.I don’t see Moses in the same light and he comes with a little excess baggage.Ultimately one can ask the question,is this a big compromise or gamble with our cap?Or can we afford to gamble to this level?
But, one thing that is different since Sheens arrived back is the ability to attract quality first grade players. So, with a hopefully much more competitive team, and the continued introduction of good youngsters into the side, are we really that much of a gamble?
And, yes, I think Sheens and Marshall make WT a big gamble for players and managers to consider.
In reality, Sheens has signed Will Smith, Brandon Wakeham and John Bateman (who is yet to arrive). Quality, you say? I disagree.You’ve made a good point but I differ in opinion to whether or not Bellamy would do the same. At Melbourne he wouldn’t but there is a chasm of difference between Melbourne Storm & Wests Tigers. If he was in the position of Benji Marshall would he be hoping the club does all they can to get a player he thinks believes will give him a good chance of success when he begins his coaching career?@helmesy No doubt it will impact on our recruitment/retention and I share your concern.I believe we’re putting a lot of eggs in one basket and possibly paying up to 400-500k overs.For a supposed pathways outfit it seems a little counter productive to me.
I think it’s also easy to be seduced by the drama of the actual negotiation as to viewing it dispassionately and objectively.I know as a lesser entity in the NRL pecking order we’re always going to pay a little more,but I could never see a Craig Bellamy paying this sort of freight unless it was a Slater or Cam Smith.Absolutely tried and tested.I don’t see Moses in the same light and he comes with a little excess baggage.Ultimately one can ask the question,is this a big compromise or gamble with our cap?Or can we afford to gamble to this level?
But, one thing that is different since Sheens arrived back is the ability to attract quality first grade players. So, with a hopefully much more competitive team, and the continued introduction of good youngsters into the side, are we really that much of a gamble?
And, yes, I think Sheens and Marshall make WT a big gamble for players and managers to consider.
And Klemmer.
- Please note guys, I changed my user name from Todd Packer to avoid any mix ups with the person using the same user name on other forum.
Missed a few API and Papi plus Klemmer Stains ….. all under Sheens/ Benji watch.In reality, Sheens has signed Will Smith, Brandon Wakeham and John Bateman (who is yet to arrive). Quality, you say? I disagree.You’ve made a good point but I differ in opinion to whether or not Bellamy would do the same. At Melbourne he wouldn’t but there is a chasm of difference between Melbourne Storm & Wests Tigers. If he was in the position of Benji Marshall would he be hoping the club does all they can to get a player he thinks believes will give him a good chance of success when he begins his coaching career?@helmesy No doubt it will impact on our recruitment/retention and I share your concern.I believe we’re putting a lot of eggs in one basket and possibly paying up to 400-500k overs.For a supposed pathways outfit it seems a little counter productive to me.
I think it’s also easy to be seduced by the drama of the actual negotiation as to viewing it dispassionately and objectively.I know as a lesser entity in the NRL pecking order we’re always going to pay a little more,but I could never see a Craig Bellamy paying this sort of freight unless it was a Slater or Cam Smith.Absolutely tried and tested.I don’t see Moses in the same light and he comes with a little excess baggage.Ultimately one can ask the question,is this a big compromise or gamble with our cap?Or can we afford to gamble to this level?
But, one thing that is different since Sheens arrived back is the ability to attract quality first grade players. So, with a hopefully much more competitive team, and the continued introduction of good youngsters into the side, are we really that much of a gamble?
And, yes, I think Sheens and Marshall make WT a big gamble for players and managers to consider.
And if you want you argue that first two were signed by Madge you’d be wrong.
In reality, Sheens has signed Will Smith, Brandon Wakeham and John Bateman (who is yet to arrive). Quality, you say? I disagree.You’ve made a good point but I differ in opinion to whether or not Bellamy would do the same. At Melbourne he wouldn’t but there is a chasm of difference between Melbourne Storm & Wests Tigers. If he was in the position of Benji Marshall would he be hoping the club does all they can to get a player he thinks believes will give him a good chance of success when he begins his coaching career?@helmesy No doubt it will impact on our recruitment/retention and I share your concern.I believe we’re putting a lot of eggs in one basket and possibly paying up to 400-500k overs.For a supposed pathways outfit it seems a little counter productive to me.
I think it’s also easy to be seduced by the drama of the actual negotiation as to viewing it dispassionately and objectively.I know as a lesser entity in the NRL pecking order we’re always going to pay a little more,but I could never see a Craig Bellamy paying this sort of freight unless it was a Slater or Cam Smith.Absolutely tried and tested.I don’t see Moses in the same light and he comes with a little excess baggage.Ultimately one can ask the question,is this a big compromise or gamble with our cap?Or can we afford to gamble to this level?
But, one thing that is different since Sheens arrived back is the ability to attract quality first grade players. So, with a hopefully much more competitive team, and the continued introduction of good youngsters into the side, are we really that much of a gamble?
And, yes, I think Sheens and Marshall make WT a big gamble for players and managers to consider.
And Klemmer.
- Please note guys, I changed my user name from Todd Packer to avoid any mix ups with the person using the same user name on other forum.
Another quality name though.
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Well, it’s certainly a gamble in comparison to the Storm, Roosters etc. I don’t think anyone would be shocked if Wests Tigers finished closer to the spoon than Premiers this season. I hope we don’t but it wouldn’t shock me. We’ve still a lot to do before that is not the case.You’ve made a good point but I differ in opinion to whether or not Bellamy would do the same. At Melbourne he wouldn’t but there is a chasm of difference between Melbourne Storm & Wests Tigers. If he was in the position of Benji Marshall would he be hoping the club does all they can to get a player he thinks believes will give him a good chance of success when he begins his coaching career?@helmesy No doubt it will impact on our recruitment/retention and I share your concern.I believe we’re putting a lot of eggs in one basket and possibly paying up to 400-500k overs.For a supposed pathways outfit it seems a little counter productive to me.
I think it’s also easy to be seduced by the drama of the actual negotiation as to viewing it dispassionately and objectively.I know as a lesser entity in the NRL pecking order we’re always going to pay a little more,but I could never see a Craig Bellamy paying this sort of freight unless it was a Slater or Cam Smith.Absolutely tried and tested.I don’t see Moses in the same light and he comes with a little excess baggage.Ultimately one can ask the question,is this a big compromise or gamble with our cap?Or can we afford to gamble to this level?
But, one thing that is different since Sheens arrived back is the ability to attract quality first grade players. So, with a hopefully much more competitive team, and the continued introduction of good youngsters into the side, are we really that much of a gamble?
I have finally signed up and joined, the other place is a cesspool atm. As for Moses, I believe he'd be a great addition to us even at the price tag. We lack a creator. I love brooks and doueihi but even wakeham looked more natural as a playmaker. We may not have got the result on the trial but it's obvious to see we will be much better this year, just may take a few games to gell.
