I’m 90% sure transfer payments are not included in the cap.
Being a different comp and if there is goodwill from all parties then it seems odd if the NRL contract wasn’t voided.
Similar situation if say the Sharks came and wanted Sullivan and were willing to pay his full contract then there would be no penalty to us.
It’s why I find it a little baffling that clubs can’t negotiate a player pay out without it going into the salary cap. Like, if Sullivan decided he wanted to quit being a player and was happy to take a negotiated settlement then that should be the end of it.
I understand some clubs may try and rort this ie sign a guy that has two years left, give him a four year deal and that includes a two year golden handshake, but if policed and approved by the NRL I really don’t see an issue.
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I’m 90% sure transfer payments are not included in the cap.
Transfer fees are different to player payment, a transfer fee is an extra fee paid to a club to release a player.
We will still be paying part of Bud's salary so I believe this will still be included in the cap.
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I’m 90% sure transfer payments are not included in the cap.
Transfer fees are different to player payment, a transfer fee is an extra fee paid to a club to release a player.
We will still be paying part of Bud's salary so I believe this will still be included in the cap.
That’s right. But why should we paying a player that has negotiated a new deal at another rugby league club (not withstanding a negotiation that includes us paying a percentage of his wage).
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I’m 90% sure transfer payments are not included in the cap.
Transfer fees are different to player payment, a transfer fee is an extra fee paid to a club to release a player.
We will still be paying part of Bud's salary so I believe this will still be included in the cap.
That’s right. But why should we paying a player that has negotiated a new deal at another rugby league club (not withstanding a negotiation that includes us paying a percentage of his wage).
Because we signed him to a terrible contract and he is owed that money. Seems we made it clear that we are willing to pay him some of his salary if another club picks him up.
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I’m 90% sure transfer payments are not included in the cap.
Transfer fees are different to player payment, a transfer fee is an extra fee paid to a club to release a player.
We will still be paying part of Bud's salary so I believe this will still be included in the cap.
That’s right. But why should we paying a player that has negotiated a new deal at another rugby league club (not withstanding a negotiation that includes us paying a percentage of his wage).
Because we signed him to a terrible contract and he is owed that money. Seems we made it clear that we are willing to pay him some of his salary if another club picks him up.
I understand that, but my point is the finding of a new contract elsewhere can only be done by ceasing the current contract.
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This is a no brainer for all involved. Particularly since the $900k doesn’t come off our cap
The $900K would be included on our cap 100%.
This is a no brainer for all involved. Particularly since the $900k doesn’t come off our cap
How come it wouldn't be on our books? Is it $900k to dissolve the contract? I thought we were willing to chip in $300 over the 3 years
payments to super league clubs don’t come off NRL salary cap
Its not a payment to a Super League Club, its payment of Sullivans Contract. It is not a transfer fee.
I’m 90% sure transfer payments are not included in the cap.
Its not a Transfer payment, its payment of Sullivans Contract.
I’m 90% sure transfer payments are not included in the cap.
Being a different comp and if there is goodwill from all parties then it seems odd if the NRL contract wasn’t voided.
Sullivan still needs to get paid his Contract money, the portion of his Contract paid by us goes on the Cap.
Similar situation if say the Sharks came and wanted Sullivan and were willing to pay his full contract then there would be no penalty to us.
Exactly the same situation. If Hull (or Sharks) come and pay Sullivan his entire Contract, none goes on our Cap, but if they dont, then the portion we pay goes on our cap. Somebody pays the penalty for the shortfall and I doubt it would be ( and it shouldnt be) Sullivan.
It’s why I find it a little baffling that clubs can’t negotiate a player pay out without it going into the salary cap. Like, if Sullivan decided he wanted to quit being a player and was happy to take a negotiated settlement then that should be the end of it.
Because it would make the cap null and void. Imagine if we were offering Luai $1.2M for 4 years ($4.8M) but Parra offered him$1M for 6 years ($6M) with the understanding they would move him on in 4?
I understand some clubs may try and rort this ie sign a guy that has two years left, give him a four year deal and that includes a two year golden handshake, but if policed and approved by the NRL I really don’t see an issue.
You really dont?
I’m 90% sure transfer payments are not included in the cap.
Transfer fees are different to player payment, a transfer fee is an extra fee paid to a club to release a player.
We will still be paying part of Bud's salary so I believe this will still be included in the cap.
That’s right. But why should we paying a player that has negotiated a new deal at another rugby league club (not withstanding a negotiation that includes us paying a percentage of his wage).
Because we signed him to a terrible contract and he is owed that money. Seems we made it clear that we are willing to pay him some of his salary if another club picks him up.
I understand that, but my point is the finding of a new contract elsewhere can only be done by ceasing the current contract.
Why would Sullivan agree to end his Contract and go elsewhere if it costs him $$$$$$$? Why should he?
Reports that Sullivan could be set for a move to the Super League 🤞
I think all these movements (Bud, Bateman, eventually AD) will happen it's all in the hands of the managers to negotiate who pays what. Everyone wants to play hard ball ie new clubs want the contracts subsidized by the existing clubs, existing clubs don't want to concede a dollar more than they have to and it can create sticking points which seems to be happening right now with Gutherson to Dragons.
But eventually something has to give, someone blinks first, and the managers actually have to earn their commissions for once!
