Gus the Great 🤔 said on 100% footy that if Madge sacked 6 players will leave. That the board is miss reading the room. I think he should worry about his own club and wish he had 6 players he would want to keep at the Bullflogs
Exodus is what I'm concerned about
The big 4 revisited is what is coming.
Why would we want players that are committed to the coach and not the club?
It’s not the coach so much it’s the instability. We are now facing at least another 3 years in the wilderness. Why would player want to stay or come to this rabble, when the can go elsewhere and be successful.
Especially now the dissenting players have got there way. That is no way to build a successful club.
The only way we can even start to look forward is when Pascoe, Lee & Sheens leave. Until that happens we will just be in the infinite loop and never learn and forever repeat the same cycle.
Gus the Great 🤔 said on 100% footy that if Madge sacked 6 players will leave. That the board is miss reading the room. I think he should worry about his own club and wish he had 6 players he would want to keep at the Bullflogs
Exodus is what I'm concerned about
The big 4 revisited is what is coming.
Why would we want players that are committed to the coach and not the club?
It’s not the coach so much it’s the instability. We are now facing at least another 3 years in the wilderness. Why would player want to stay or come to this rabble, when the can go elsewhere and be successful.
Especially now the dissenting players have got there way. That is no way to build a successful club.
The only way we can even start to look forward is when Pascoe, Lee & Sheens leave. Until that happens we will just be in the infinite loop and never learn and forever repeat the same cycle.
Maybe they should have won more games and the coach may have survived.
In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)
Gus the Great 🤔 said on 100% footy that if Madge sacked 6 players will leave. That the board is miss reading the room. I think he should worry about his own club and wish he had 6 players he would want to keep at the Bullflogs
Exodus is what I'm concerned about
The big 4 revisited is what is coming.
Why would we want players that are committed to the coach and not the club?
It’s not the coach so much it’s the instability. We are now facing at least another 3 years in the wilderness. Why would player want to stay or come to this rabble, when the can go elsewhere and be successful.
Especially now the dissenting players have got there way. That is no way to build a successful club.
The only way we can even start to look forward is when Pascoe, Lee & Sheens leave. Until that happens we will just be in the infinite loop and never learn and forever repeat the same cycle.
Maybe they should have won more games and the coach may have survived.
Hard to win when you have protected players in the squad that can never be held accountable.
Gus the Great 🤔 said on 100% footy that if Madge sacked 6 players will leave. That the board is miss reading the room. I think he should worry about his own club and wish he had 6 players he would want to keep at the Bullflogs
Exodus is what I'm concerned about
The big 4 revisited is what is coming.
Why would we want players that are committed to the coach and not the club?
It’s not the coach so much it’s the instability. We are now facing at least another 3 years in the wilderness. Why would player want to stay or come to this rabble, when the can go elsewhere and be successful.
Especially now the dissenting players have got there way. That is no way to build a successful club.
The only way we can even start to look forward is when Pascoe, Lee & Sheens leave. Until that happens we will just be in the infinite loop and never learn and forever repeat the same cycle.
I disagree. Sheens is in complete control and has shown he can get deals done. Next will be the Ciraldo signing and we can bring in an influx of panthers talent to bridge the gap until our pathways get going.
Kimmorely seemed keen on being given the opportunity.. to me it wasn't just as caretaker coach...
Gus the Great 🤔 said on 100% footy that if Madge sacked 6 players will leave. That the board is miss reading the room. I think he should worry about his own club and wish he had 6 players he would want to keep at the Bullflogs
Exodus is what I'm concerned about
The big 4 revisited is what is coming.
Why would we want players that are committed to the coach and not the club?
It’s not the coach so much it’s the instability. We are now facing at least another 3 years in the wilderness. Why would player want to stay or come to this rabble, when the can go elsewhere and be successful.
Especially now the dissenting players have got there way. That is no way to build a successful club.
The only way we can even start to look forward is when Pascoe, Lee & Sheens leave. Until that happens we will just be in the infinite loop and never learn and forever repeat the same cycle.
I disagree. Sheens is in complete control and has shown he can get deals done. Next will be the Ciraldo signing and we can bring in an influx of panthers talent to bridge the gap until our pathways get going.
Sheens was sacked for a reason. That reason hasn’t changed. Stopped Brooks from leaving when he should have been let go. Wants to play Hastings at lock. Stopping Doueihi from returning this year. The Sheenious is still there unfortunately. He’s past his use by date and should be put out to pasture.
My fear is that what is coming will make the big four leaving look like a picnic in comparison.
its ciraldo
Don't think providing articles behind a paywall helps..
Gus the Great 🤔 said on 100% footy that if Madge sacked 6 players will leave. That the board is miss reading the room. I think he should worry about his own club and wish he had 6 players he would want to keep at the Bullflogs
Exodus is what I'm concerned about
The big 4 revisited is what is coming.
Why would we want players that are committed to the coach and not the club?
It’s not the coach so much it’s the instability. We are now facing at least another 3 years in the wilderness. Why would player want to stay or come to this rabble, when the can go elsewhere and be successful.
Especially now the dissenting players have got there way. That is no way to build a successful club.
The only way we can even start to look forward is when Pascoe, Lee & Sheens leave. Until that happens we will just be in the infinite loop and never learn and forever repeat the same cycle.
Maybe they should have won more games and the coach may have survived.
I think that's unfair, last year and this year we've had a very young side. As Sheens said we have a young team and your not going to see many wins until that young group play 50 games.
Plus we all know the injuries we had the first half of the year. I didn't see many games thus year where the players weren't playing playing madge, and indeed saw a lot of improvement.
We haven't yet had a game where Hastings, Brooks and AD played together.
And have only played a handful of games with Hastings, Brooks and Laurie together.
If it was bc Sheens wants a development coach - it's not the players fault.
Anyway, now a new coach gets the luxury of time for the emerging players to develop and our injured stars playing together.
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Wests Tigers are set to step up their pursuit of Penrith assistant Cameron Ciraldo with Tim Sheens declaring they want a development coach following Michael Maguire’s axing.
Tigers chair Lee Hagipantelis confirmed chief executive Justin Pascoe and head of football Sheens would begin putting together a wishlist of candidates after the club made the decision to sack Maguire on Tuesday, ending months of speculation over their coach’s future.
Ciraldo will be at the top of that list and the Tigers will exhaust all avenues in an attempt to convince him that his future lies with them.
They face competition for his signature - Canterbury are also believed to be eyeing him off while Penrith want to extend his deal - but it is understood Ciraldo has been making subtle inquiries about the Tigers in the background to establish whether the club would be a good fit for him and is leaning towards choosing the Tigers over the Bulldogs.
In describing what he wanted as the next coach Sheens essentially summed up Ciraldo’s strengths.
“If we’re going to be a younger development club we will have our highs and lows,” Sheens said. “Until they get 50 games we are going to be struggling. We need to development the players, give our local juniors first option.
Doesn’t mean we won’t buy a senior player or two. We have a couple of good buys coming in next year.
“My phone will run hot the next few days. Of course (Ciraldo will be linked). The usual names will be thrown around. My name many of times has been in that. Fitzy (Craig Fitzgibbon) was used as the next big thing.”
While Ciraldo is the clear favourite, Hagipantelis insisted no decision had been made about Maguire’s successor.
Melbourne premiership winner Brett Kimmorley will take on the interim role.
“Tim and Justin will now commence a process of reviewing alternatives,” Hagipantelis said.
“They will commence that process and they will eventually come to the board with a recommendation whenever appropriate.
“Our preference would have been to retain our head coach and continue to improve and grow. Not only have the last three and half years been disappointing …. but your focus has always been on the next three and half years.
“Our pathways program is starting to bear fruit and the club formed the decision that Michael was unlikely to be the coach over the next three to four years.
“If that is the case, you might as well make the difficult decision now.”
Rugby league’s day of the long knives began bright and early with the sacking of Warriors Nathan Brown.
Within hours that news was swamped by the Tigers’ decision to terminate their contract with Maguire after four fruitless years in charge.
As Brown was being told his time at the Warriors was over, a flurry of phone calls were underway at the Tigers. The pressure had been building on Maguire for months. There were some members of the board who wanted him removed late last year but they didn’t have the numbers to hold sway.
Remarkably, Maguire took training on Tuesday morning only hours before his fate was resolved. At that point, Maguire likely believed he would be coaching the side against Manly on Sunday afternoon.
Sheens said when he decided Maguire would not be at the club long-term he knew a change had to happen.
“Madge is a realist,” Sheens said. “He knew he was under pressure. We need someone for at least three or four years to see that through. We can’t say he will be our coach in three years time then he shouldn’t be here and now is the time to do it.
“He shook my hand very firmly. He took it like the man he is. He can coach there’s no doubt about that. He has proven that. It’s not the fit for us at the moment.”
After talks between Sheens, Pascoe and Hagipantelis, the decision was made to call a board meeting for 1pm where the directors heard from Sheens, who has been conducting a mid-year review into the club.
At that meeting, the decision was made to sack Maguire and start the search for a new coach.
Pascoe and Sheens informed Maguire of his fate before Hagipantelis joined them to speak to the playing group.
“It was determined this morning to proceed down this particular path,” Hagipantelis said.
“The media speculation for the last 24-48 hours in particular was unhealthy for all concerned, for us and Michael. It felt it was such a toxic environment at the moment in terms of media speculation, very unfair to him and the club. We needed to impose some certainty on the uncertainty”
Ciraldo aside, premiership winners Shane Flanagan and Paul Green and former Cronulla coach John Morris have been mooted as likely candidates while Brown looms an ideal development coach.
Wests Tigers are set to step up their pursuit of Penrith assistant Cameron Ciraldo with Tim Sheens declaring they want a development coach following Michael Maguire’s axing.
Tigers chair Lee Hagipantelis confirmed chief executive Justin Pascoe and head of football Sheens would begin putting together a wishlist of candidates after the club made the decision to sack Maguire on Tuesday, ending months of speculation over their coach’s future.
Ciraldo will be at the top of that list and the Tigers will exhaust all avenues in an attempt to convince him that his future lies with them.
They face competition for his signature - Canterbury are also believed to be eyeing him off while Penrith want to extend his deal - but it is understood Ciraldo has been making subtle inquiries about the Tigers in the background to establish whether the club would be a good fit for him and is leaning towards choosing the Tigers over the Bulldogs.
In describing what he wanted as the next coach Sheens essentially summed up Ciraldo’s strengths.
“If we’re going to be a younger development club we will have our highs and lows,” Sheens said. “Until they get 50 games we are going to be struggling. We need to development the players, give our local juniors first option.
Doesn’t mean we won’t buy a senior player or two. We have a couple of good buys coming in next year.
“My phone will run hot the next few days. Of course (Ciraldo will be linked). The usual names will be thrown around. My name many of times has been in that. Fitzy (Craig Fitzgibbon) was used as the next big thing.”
While Ciraldo is the clear favourite, Hagipantelis insisted no decision had been made about Maguire’s successor.
Melbourne premiership winner Brett Kimmorley will take on the interim role.
“Tim and Justin will now commence a process of reviewing alternatives,” Hagipantelis said.
“They will commence that process and they will eventually come to the board with a recommendation whenever appropriate.
“Our preference would have been to retain our head coach and continue to improve and grow. Not only have the last three and half years been disappointing …. but your focus has always been on the next three and half years.
“Our pathways program is starting to bear fruit and the club formed the decision that Michael was unlikely to be the coach over the next three to four years.
“If that is the case, you might as well make the difficult decision now.”
Rugby league’s day of the long knives began bright and early with the sacking of Warriors Nathan Brown.
Within hours that news was swamped by the Tigers’ decision to terminate their contract with Maguire after four fruitless years in charge.
As Brown was being told his time at the Warriors was over, a flurry of phone calls were underway at the Tigers. The pressure had been building on Maguire for months. There were some members of the board who wanted him removed late last year but they didn’t have the numbers to hold sway.
Remarkably, Maguire took training on Tuesday morning only hours before his fate was resolved. At that point, Maguire likely believed he would be coaching the side against Manly on Sunday afternoon.
Sheens said when he decided Maguire would not be at the club long-term he knew a change had to happen.
“Madge is a realist,” Sheens said. “He knew he was under pressure. We need someone for at least three or four years to see that through. We can’t say he will be our coach in three years time then he shouldn’t be here and now is the time to do it.
“He shook my hand very firmly. He took it like the man he is. He can coach there’s no doubt about that. He has proven that. It’s not the fit for us at the moment.”
After talks between Sheens, Pascoe and Hagipantelis, the decision was made to call a board meeting for 1pm where the directors heard from Sheens, who has been conducting a mid-year review into the club.
At that meeting, the decision was made to sack Maguire and start the search for a new coach.
Pascoe and Sheens informed Maguire of his fate before Hagipantelis joined them to speak to the playing group.
“It was determined this morning to proceed down this particular path,” Hagipantelis said.
“The media speculation for the last 24-48 hours in particular was unhealthy for all concerned, for us and Michael. It felt it was such a toxic environment at the moment in terms of media speculation, very unfair to him and the club. We needed to impose some certainty on the uncertainty”
Ciraldo aside, premiership winners Shane Flanagan and Paul Green and former Cronulla coach John Morris have been mooted as likely candidates while Brown looms an ideal development coach.
What a shambles. They sack the coach and don’t even have a replacement lined up.
Reckon the club has finally broken me ......pack of useless pricks in upper management and the board .......
@tigertownsfs they have ciraldo all lined up for sure
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