These results you speak of? 3 wins from 12 games?
If you are just looking at how many wins we had this year, you don't need a 2 week review.
The results have been in the change of attitude, defensive structures and resolve, attacking structures and strikes rate in 20m zone and the emergence of real leaders in Joffa, Jacko, Tamou and Tawl.
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I think you can't look at our season so far without recognising the impact of injuries and suspensions across the team, but particularly with our spine.
Below are the games our preferred spine (Laurie 1, Brooks 6, Hastings 7, Simpkin/Liddle 9) has played together in those positions
Parra - W (simpkin)
Souths - W (Liddle)
Souths - L (Simpkin)
Even if you add in the 2 games where Hastings played 6 that's a total of only 5 games together
And that's with AD yet to play who may be the preferred 6.
In actually excited about the 2nd half of the year. It's almost like a new season, where we have a full spine and fit squad to choose from
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Tigerap on the WTF…
Top 30 Player interviews completed
Coaches and high performance team interviews completed
Board, Chair and CEO input obtained.Report with recommendation/s presented next week
Players have been on leave all week.
Some have been on leave a lot longer than that Gaz
If we are going to get a new coach. I believe
Kristian Woolf is the one we should be looking at.
Why do we need to interview the players .....it's not if they have won 9 from 12 and are missing out on SOO selection because they were coached by Madge
Yeah ask the 4 or 5 keepers ...tell the other 25 to ask their players manager to talk to Gus
Why do we need to interview the players .....it's not if they have won 9 from 12 and are missing out on SOO selection because they were coached by Madge
Yeah ask the 4 or 5 keepers ...tell the other 25 to ask their players manager to talk to Gus
Very true
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These results you speak of? 3 wins from 12 games?
If you are just looking at how many wins we had this year, you don't need a 2 week review.
The results have been in the change of attitude, defensive structures and resolve, attacking structures and strikes rate in 20m zone and the emergence of real leaders in Joffa, Jacko, Tamou and Tawl.
FWIW I agree with this, as well as the point of your next post re injuries. Trouble for me is that we have seen these green shoots of hope continually over the last 4 years. I remember myself making the point that I thought Madge was turning it around 2 years ago with changes made to the back office with Hartigan etc and that had to be torn down.
yes we have been hit with injuries but all clubs are. Losses to knights and warriors were the worst I’ve seen. Very worrying signs against Souffs with the strongest team we have fielded in 4 years. Even with injuries this team is stronger than two years ago and the fact remains that we have won 3 from 12.
These results you speak of? 3 wins from 12 games?
If you are just looking at how many wins we had this year, you don't need a 2 week review.
The results have been in the change of attitude, defensive structures and resolve, attacking structures and strikes rate in 20m zone and the emergence of real leaders in Joffa, Jacko, Tamou and Tawl.
FWIW I agree with this, as well as the point of your next post re injuries. Trouble for me is that we have seen these green shoots of hope continually over the last 4 years. I remember myself making the point that I thought Madge was turning it around 2 years ago with changes made to the back office with Hartigan etc and that had to be torn down.
yes we have been hit with injuries but all clubs are. Losses to knights and warriors were the worst I’ve seen. Very worrying signs against Souffs with the strongest team we have fielded in 4 years. Even with injuries this team is stronger than two years ago and the fact remains that we have won 3 from 12.
I get that - if we were humming along, there wouldn't be this discussion. So I get that.
But my thinking goes to what's the best decision now that improves us going forward?
Sacking a head coach is a big decision, because the whole house of cards underneath falls with it also - the players that coach likes, the coaching systems, the assistants, alaray cap philosophy, systems etc etc
From my perspective I don't see an alternative coach that guarantees that we go to a better position than what madge can get us to over the next 18months +
Flannagan, green and co are a step sideways
Cilardo and Woolfe are possibly better but also possibly worse. Especially under the WT pressur microscope - so they are an unknown
Madge is here, he has the belief of the team, we have an improving team with better players coming in - let's let things be for another 12-18 months then reassess.
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These results you speak of? 3 wins from 12 games?
If you are just looking at how many wins we had this year, you don't need a 2 week review.
The results have been in the change of attitude, defensive structures and resolve, attacking structures and strikes rate in 20m zone and the emergence of real leaders in Joffa, Jacko, Tamou and Tawl.
FWIW I agree with this, as well as the point of your next post re injuries. Trouble for me is that we have seen these green shoots of hope continually over the last 4 years. I remember myself making the point that I thought Madge was turning it around 2 years ago with changes made to the back office with Hartigan etc and that had to be torn down.
yes we have been hit with injuries but all clubs are. Losses to knights and warriors were the worst I’ve seen. Very worrying signs against Souffs with the strongest team we have fielded in 4 years. Even with injuries this team is stronger than two years ago and the fact remains that we have won 3 from 12.
I get that - if we were humming along, there wouldn't be this discussion. So I get that.
But my thinking goes to what's the best decision now that improves us going forward?
Sacking a head coach is a big decision, because the whole house of cards underneath falls with it also - the players that coach likes, the coaching systems, the assistants, alaray cap philosophy, systems etc etc
From my perspective I don't see an alternative coach that guarantees that we go to a better position than what madge can get us to over the next 18months +
Flannagan, green and co are a step sideways
Cilardo and Woolfe are possibly better but also possibly worse. Especially under the WT pressur microscope - so they are an unknown
Madge is here, he has the belief of the team, we have an improving team with better players coming in - let's let things be for another 12-18 months then reassess.
I understand your point and as others have said, its not a decision that can be made in isolation, the alternative needs to be factored in.
Im not sure this club can survive another 18months of same old same old and small incremental improvements arent likely to turn things around IMO.
I like Madge, I think he is completely committed to the club and the team and I agree there are signs of improvement however iM not sure there is much improvement to come. AD is probably the only addition or improvement to come and Im not sure he is the messiah some are expecting.
I also agree with most of your summary of alternate coaches. Flanno and Green are not the answer. IMO it should be Ciraldo or Madge. I understand the concern over a rookie but for me the fact that he has been so integrated with the Pamfers pathways and their systems is a win for me.
You get Ciraldo you bring 3 or 4 quality panthers players who can’t be afforded under their cap and you are a top 8 team. That is your bridge to 2026 and beyond when our pathways players start to come through.
You get Ciraldo you bring 3 or 4 quality panthers players who can’t be afforded under their cap and you are a top 8 team. That is your bridge to 2026 and beyond when our pathways players start to come through.
I agree, I think Ciraldo changes the whole feel of the place.
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Has Ciraldo said he is interested in coaching the Tigers? I know it was said that he knocked us back last year, but things may have changed.
@tigertownsfs if we can get ciraldo you go after Burton and Liam Martin
2024 you keep Madden as back up and let Douhie and Brooks go and make a play for S Crichton
if Brooks is on this mythical 1.1 million rubbish figure (think it is more like 850k) then we have no problem in our cap getting rid of him and douhie (say 600k) and getting Burton and S Crichton that would leave 1.7 million to have a crack
1 s Crichton
2. Nofo
3 To'oa
4. ?
5. Maumalo
6. Burton
7. Hastings
9. Api
@tigertownsfs if we can get ciraldo you go after Burton and Liam Martin
2024 you keep Madden as back up and let Douhie and Brooks go and make a play for S Crichton
if Brooks is on this mythical 1.1 million rubbish figure (think it is more like 850k) then we have no problem in our cap getting rid of him and douhie (say 600k) and getting Burton and S Crichton that would leave 1.7 million to have a crack
1 s Crichton
2. Nofo
3 To'oa
4. ?
5. Maumalo
6. Burton
7. Hastings
9. Api
Am I the only person here that thinks To’a is bog average? I don’t see a lot there.
To’a is a good first grader when he plays in position, which is centre (preferably left centre). I like the way he runs on early tackles and he can bust them as well. His D is acceptable at centre but last week he injured his leg early and struggled. Before then he was playing fullback, which he struggles with (even though that was where he played as a junior). I’d have him in our full strength team.
