Is it time for Magu...
 
Share:
Notifications
Clear all

Is it time for Maguire to go?

(@super-coach)
Junior Pathways
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 53
 

Our roster was was always in terms of talent and skill be at or near the bottom of all the teams. Than we had the injury god turn on us and make our roster even weaker. Anyway I guess who ever was coaching us would be on a hiding to nothing.

In saying the above, you still expect your side to show some direction and urgency, and our side shows nothing. So I think it is probably time for a new coach with a new vision. Although till the roster is over hauled big time, nothing will change.


   
ReplyQuote
Garry
(@garry)
Wests Tigers Development Player Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 4965
 
Posted by: @super-coach

Our roster was was always in terms of talent and skill be at or near the bottom of all the teams. Than we had the injury god turn on us and make our roster even weaker. Anyway I guess who ever was coaching us would be on a hiding to nothing.

In saying the above, you still expect your side to show some direction and urgency, and our side shows nothing. So I think it is probably time for a new coach with a new vision. Although till the roster is over hauled big time, nothing will change.

He has had 4 off seasons to improve the roster.  To improve the players. 

In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)


   
Joel Helmes and MickeyB reacted
ReplyQuote
(@mickb)
Balmain Tigers SG Ball
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 542
 
Posted by: @frullens

If you go back 7 days, most people were saying the team was playing noticeably different in both attack and defence.

But today was bad and too much like last year. I still want to wait to judge Madge after at least 10-15 games. even if we don’t win the majority, I want to see a committed team showing effort which we didn’t see today.

Our squad would is better next year, but this year our squad is unbalanced - really missing leadership. Don’t know why we didn’t go hard to frizell or finucane last year. not sure if that’s on Madge or admin.

I’m a Madge fan but he needs to seriously pull this team together and do it quickly 

Good post. There is merit in waiting 10 games because pulling the pin now is acceptance that 2022 is already a write off.

There is maybe a 10% chance things turn around IMO. 

The lack of balance in the squad sits solely with madge. He is the reason why a player comes to us or leaves for elsewhere. We have seen him going to meet players in cafes and restaurants e.g Nanai last week. The club would tell you there is a recruitment /retention committee but that is crap.

Players dont want to play for him. We havent signed anyone of any profile since he joined the club. It's that simple.

Whoever the next coach is they need to be able to bring players. Absolutely plain and simple.

 

 


   
Joel Helmes reacted
ReplyQuote
Garry
(@garry)
Wests Tigers Development Player Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 4965
 
Posted by: @mickb
Posted by: @frullens

If you go back 7 days, most people were saying the team was playing noticeably different in both attack and defence.

But today was bad and too much like last year. I still want to wait to judge Madge after at least 10-15 games. even if we don’t win the majority, I want to see a committed team showing effort which we didn’t see today.

Our squad would is better next year, but this year our squad is unbalanced - really missing leadership. Don’t know why we didn’t go hard to frizell or finucane last year. not sure if that’s on Madge or admin.

I’m a Madge fan but he needs to seriously pull this team together and do it quickly 

Good post. There is merit in waiting 10 games because pulling the pin now is acceptance that 2022 is already a write off.

There is maybe a 10% chance things turn around IMO. 

The lack of balance in the squad sits solely with madge. He is the reason why a player comes to us or leaves for elsewhere. We have seen him going to meet players in cafes and restaurants e.g Nanai last week. The club would tell you there is a recruitment /retention committee but that is crap.

Players dont want to play for him. We havent signed anyone of any profile since he joined the club. It's that simple.

Whoever the next coach is they need to be able to bring players. Absolutely plain and simple.

 

 

We do have Papali'i and Api for next year.

In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)


   
Joel Helmes reacted
ReplyQuote
(@unhappy-tiger)
Wests Tigers Jersey Flegg
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 1226
 
Posted by: @helmesy
Posted by: @unhappy-tiger
Posted by: @helmesy

Maguire "I know what this group is capable of."

Well Coach, why can't you get them there?

I'm sure Madge doesn't coach them to be incompotent  ill disciplined impatient show ponies  

No, that’s right. Only thing is, with that logic Terry Lamb would still be coaching us. Sometimes a guy just doesn’t have the answers/strategies and isn’t right for a position.

So many decisions that supposed experienced NRL players made yesterday were illogical .....that 1st kick Hastings tries to snap up was going to end up closer to the Gold Coast than the ingoal ..and it just got worse from there .....you can't blame Madge for making poor on field choices ...he deserves some blame for the talent ...but so do many others at teh club who remain basically nameless in all this  


   
Mike and Joel Helmes reacted
ReplyQuote
(@eastiemagpie)
Wests Tigers Jersey Flegg
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 902
 
Posted by: @garry
Posted by: @helmesy
Posted by: @garry

Just watched the press conference, I'm done.

Welcome to the club Garry 😆

I was ready for him to go at the end of last year, once the club made the decision to stick I had to give him a chance going into this season. Today it was evident that nothing has changed and that press conference was terrible.

These are my thoughts exactly. Even though I am not expecting to play finals this year, I was expecting to see resilience, effort plays and better structures in attack and defence, but I see nothing.


   
Joel Helmes reacted
ReplyQuote
Geo
 Geo
(@geo-2)
Balmain Tigers SG Ball
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 612
 

Article on foxsports with Kent singling  out he playing group for some reason it won't let me post.. basically says they are soft and Madge hands are tied because of this..if he goes to hard they sook..if he goes to soft they coast happy just to get payed..

 

This is the whole problem I have with the simple sack the coach.. It won't matter who it is until the entire attitude changes..

 

Buzzard then pipes in with his bit adding his bestest mate Flanno is looking for a gig and would be perfect hard nosed fit.. Wests Tigers have a month to decide..


   
Mike and Joel Helmes reacted
ReplyQuote
(@Anonymous 9)
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 3247
 
Posted by: @geo-2

Article on foxsports with Kent signalling out he playing group for some reason it won't let me post.. basically says they are soft and Madge hands are tied because of this..if he goes to hard they sook..if he goes to soft they coast happy just to get payed..

 

This is the whole problem I have with the simple sack the coach.. It won't matter who it is until the entire attitude changes..

 

Buzzard then pipes in with his bit adding his bestest mate Flanno is looking for a gig and would be perfect hard nosed fit.. Wests Tigers have a month to decide..

Kent has never said a single negative word about Madge. He's a massive fan. 

It's not as simple as replacing the coach but getting a coach that has half an idea how to prepare players for the modern game would be a huge step up. 


   
Joel Helmes reacted
ReplyQuote
Geo
 Geo
(@geo-2)
Balmain Tigers SG Ball
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 612
 
Posted by: @avocadoontoast
Posted by: @geo-2

Article on foxsports with Kent signalling out he playing group for some reason it won't let me post.. basically says they are soft and Madge hands are tied because of this..if he goes to hard they sook..if he goes to soft they coast happy just to get payed..

 

This is the whole problem I have with the simple sack the coach.. It won't matter who it is until the entire attitude changes..

 

Buzzard then pipes in with his bit adding his bestest mate Flanno is looking for a gig and would be perfect hard nosed fit.. Wests Tigers have a month to decide..

Kent has never said a single negative word about Madge. He's a massive fan. 

It's not as simple as replacing the coach but getting a coach that has half an idea how to prepare players for the modern game would be a huge step up. 

So blokes that have been playing Rugby League most of them since they where 6 need to be coached how to run and tackle and catch and kick a football in the modern game ..not buying it..


   
Mike reacted
ReplyQuote
(@Anonymous 9)
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 3247
 
Posted by: @geo-2
Posted by: @avocadoontoast
Posted by: @geo-2

Article on foxsports with Kent signalling out he playing group for some reason it won't let me post.. basically says they are soft and Madge hands are tied because of this..if he goes to hard they sook..if he goes to soft they coast happy just to get payed..

 

This is the whole problem I have with the simple sack the coach.. It won't matter who it is until the entire attitude changes..

 

Buzzard then pipes in with his bit adding his bestest mate Flanno is looking for a gig and would be perfect hard nosed fit.. Wests Tigers have a month to decide..

Kent has never said a single negative word about Madge. He's a massive fan. 

It's not as simple as replacing the coach but getting a coach that has half an idea how to prepare players for the modern game would be a huge step up. 

So blokes that have been playing Rugby League most of them since they where 6 need to be coached how to run and tackle and catch and kick a football in the modern game ..not buying it..

Cleary got them to do it, with arguably a weaker squad. Why have they gone backwards under Madge?


   
Joel Helmes reacted
ReplyQuote
Geo
 Geo
(@geo-2)
Balmain Tigers SG Ball
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 612
 

It's me.. I was always of the belief Coaching is not over rated but gets way to much credit when things are going well and way to much criticism when things are going badly..

Just like we say if player X leaves Wests Tigers they go better at another Club.. so if you where to swap Bellemy or Robinson into the current Wests Tigers and Madge into their organisations what the effects would be..


   
Mike reacted
ReplyQuote
(@Anonymous 9)
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 3247
 
Posted by: @geo-2

It's me.. I was always of the belief Coaching is not over rated but gets way to much credit when things are going well and way to much criticism when things are going badly..

Just like we say if player X leaves Wests Tigers they go better at another Club.. so if you where to swap Bellemy or Robinson into the current Wests Tigers and Madge into their organisations what the effects would be..

Having Bellamy or Robinson in charge would have a significant impact. They're excellent strategists and they're good man managers, Madge is neither of those things.

 

 


   
Joel Helmes reacted
ReplyQuote
(@helmesy)
Wests Tigers Development Player Admin
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 4740
Topic starter  
Posted by: @avocadoontoast
Posted by: @geo-2

It's me.. I was always of the belief Coaching is not over rated but gets way to much credit when things are going well and way to much criticism when things are going badly..

Just like we say if player X leaves Wests Tigers they go better at another Club.. so if you where to swap Bellemy or Robinson into the current Wests Tigers and Madge into their organisations what the effects would be..

Having Bellamy or Robinson in charge would have a significant impact. They're excellent strategists and they're good man managers, Madge is neither of those things.

 

 

They would also most likely have a better recruitment strike rate.

Wests Tigers Podcast - Talking everything Wests Tigers!


   
ReplyQuote
(@snake)
Wests Tigers Jersey Flegg
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 928
 

@geo-Your joking right! 


   
ReplyQuote
Harvey
(@harvey)
Junior Pathways
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 107
 

Madge has signed most of these players. If he is being saddled with players he can't coach then he should resign.

We are honestly a reserve grade standard squad


   
Joel Helmes reacted
ReplyQuote
Page 4 / 5
Share: