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Posted by: @eastiemagpie

our chairman has a penchant for using silly descriptive words and emotive language. The communication from the club had improved until this. The guy loves the sound of his own voice and can’t accept any negative feedback.

 

So true. All he had to say was “we’re dealing with it in-house and Justin and I pride ourselves on being open and available to all members of the organisation. We intend to keep doing this moving forward.”

 

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Posted by: @garry

Posted by: @jirskyr

Posted by: @tigertownsfs

Posted by: @tiger_alex

Look its as simple as this...

Any "Boss" that cannot take criticism from those within that are all trying to aim for a successful entity obviously has some superiority complexes that aren't good.

Maybe... just maybe if Justin Pascoe had a calm discussion with this bloke and listened and took his comments on board there would not have been a heated discussion in front of sponsors in the first place.

not sure it’s that simple. Pascoe reports to the WT where WSDRL club have a seat. If anything this bloke is closer to Pascoes boss 

 

No they don't? Only Wests Ashfield has seats (and 2 for Balmain). WA then fund the junior comps under their charter. Wests Football Club has no ownership or oversight whatsoever of Wests Tigers.

 

 

That is not correct, the Wests Tigers are owned 90% by Wests magpies Pty ltd, which is made up of 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% WSDRLC. WSDRLC also holds one seat on the Wests Tigers board.

 

Balmain own 10% and have 1 seat.

 

Thanks for clearing up and apologies for the mistake. I couldn't find any reference at all to WSDRLC ownership and it's become even more murkier since they incorporated Holman Barnes. However I can see now the info is on the Wests Magpies website.

What I find misleading is that although Wests Magpies is apparently 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% Wests District, Holman Barnes (AKA Wests Ashfield) hold a 4/3 majority at Wests District and 100% of the Wests appointees to the Wests Tigers board are Holman Barnes directors.

So who exactly is the Wests District representative at Wests Tigers and what does that mean if they simultaneously represent Holman Barnes? It almost makes the 66/33 split meaningless if Holman Barnes put all their people on the WT Board and control voting on Wests District.

 

Lee H = independent Chair

Tony Andreacchio - he is part of WSDRLC but he's also a Wests Ashfield member and Chairman of Holman Barnes

Dennis Burgess - from Wests Ashfield and also a director of Holman Barnes

Simon Cook = CEO of Wests Ashfield

James Myatt = director of Balmain

Julie Romero - another director of Holman Barnes

Danny Stapleton - Balmain background and Chair of Wests Tigers Football Committee - I will have to assume he is one of the "independents"

Rick Wayde = comes from Wests Magpies football club but also director of Wests Ashfield, and is also on Holman Barnes

 


   
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Posted by: @jirskyr

Posted by: @garry

Posted by: @jirskyr

Posted by: @tigertownsfs

Posted by: @tiger_alex

Look its as simple as this...

Any "Boss" that cannot take criticism from those within that are all trying to aim for a successful entity obviously has some superiority complexes that aren't good.

Maybe... just maybe if Justin Pascoe had a calm discussion with this bloke and listened and took his comments on board there would not have been a heated discussion in front of sponsors in the first place.

not sure it’s that simple. Pascoe reports to the WT where WSDRL club have a seat. If anything this bloke is closer to Pascoes boss 

 

No they don't? Only Wests Ashfield has seats (and 2 for Balmain). WA then fund the junior comps under their charter. Wests Football Club has no ownership or oversight whatsoever of Wests Tigers.

 

 

That is not correct, the Wests Tigers are owned 90% by Wests magpies Pty ltd, which is made up of 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% WSDRLC. WSDRLC also holds one seat on the Wests Tigers board.

 

Balmain own 10% and have 1 seat.

 

Thanks for clearing up and apologies for the mistake. I couldn't find any reference at all to WSDRLC ownership and it's become even more murkier since they incorporated Holman Barnes. However I can see now the info is on the Wests Magpies website.

What I find misleading is that although Wests Magpies is apparently 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% Wests District, Holman Barnes (AKA Wests Ashfield) hold a 4/3 majority at Wests District and 100% of the Wests appointees to the Wests Tigers board are Holman Barnes directors.

So who exactly is the Wests District representative at Wests Tigers and what does that mean if they simultaneously represent Holman Barnes? It almost makes the 66/33 split meaningless if Holman Barnes put all their people on the WT Board and control voting on Wests District.

 

Lee H = independent Chair

Tony Andreacchio - he is part of WSDRLC but he's also a Wests Ashfield member and Chairman of Holman Barnes

Dennis Burgess - from Wests Ashfield and also a director of Holman Barnes

Simon Cook = CEO of Wests Ashfield

James Myatt = director of Balmain

Julie Romero - another director of Holman Barnes

Danny Stapleton - Balmain background and Chair of Wests Tigers Football Committee - I will have to assume he is one of the "independents"

Rick Wayde = comes from Wests Magpies football club but also director of Wests Ashfield, and is also on Holman Barnes

 

I actually asked this exact question of the club yesterday, it really is a convoluted mess in reality. Danny Stapleton is one of the independents. Now in relation to WSDRLFC and their representation on the Wests Tigers board, the only place that is stated is on the Wests Magpies website. From my discussion yesterday I am not sure they have a seat, though they do have representation at this point in time through the guys you mentioned. I don't think it really matters if they do have seat as the WSDRLFC is completed controlled by the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield) as they appoint the majority of members to that board.

 

It is interesting as a very small number of people essentially have control of the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield), WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers as the majority of seats on the boards of WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers are appointed by the Holman Group. The board of the Holman Group is made up of 2 directors elected by the general membership of Holman Group (Wests Ashfield). The other 5 directors come from the Debenture Holders of the Holman Group, this is only 20 people. In reality those 20 people have control of all 3 boards and are the only people who can make genuine changes at board level throughout the clubs.

 

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Posted by: @garry

Posted by: @jirskyr

Posted by: @garry

Posted by: @jirskyr

Posted by: @tigertownsfs

Posted by: @tiger_alex

Look its as simple as this...

Any "Boss" that cannot take criticism from those within that are all trying to aim for a successful entity obviously has some superiority complexes that aren't good.

Maybe... just maybe if Justin Pascoe had a calm discussion with this bloke and listened and took his comments on board there would not have been a heated discussion in front of sponsors in the first place.

not sure it’s that simple. Pascoe reports to the WT where WSDRL club have a seat. If anything this bloke is closer to Pascoes boss 

 

No they don't? Only Wests Ashfield has seats (and 2 for Balmain). WA then fund the junior comps under their charter. Wests Football Club has no ownership or oversight whatsoever of Wests Tigers.

 

 

That is not correct, the Wests Tigers are owned 90% by Wests magpies Pty ltd, which is made up of 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% WSDRLC. WSDRLC also holds one seat on the Wests Tigers board.

 

Balmain own 10% and have 1 seat.

 

Thanks for clearing up and apologies for the mistake. I couldn't find any reference at all to WSDRLC ownership and it's become even more murkier since they incorporated Holman Barnes. However I can see now the info is on the Wests Magpies website.

What I find misleading is that although Wests Magpies is apparently 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% Wests District, Holman Barnes (AKA Wests Ashfield) hold a 4/3 majority at Wests District and 100% of the Wests appointees to the Wests Tigers board are Holman Barnes directors.

So who exactly is the Wests District representative at Wests Tigers and what does that mean if they simultaneously represent Holman Barnes? It almost makes the 66/33 split meaningless if Holman Barnes put all their people on the WT Board and control voting on Wests District.

 

Lee H = independent Chair

Tony Andreacchio - he is part of WSDRLC but he's also a Wests Ashfield member and Chairman of Holman Barnes

Dennis Burgess - from Wests Ashfield and also a director of Holman Barnes

Simon Cook = CEO of Wests Ashfield

James Myatt = director of Balmain

Julie Romero - another director of Holman Barnes

Danny Stapleton - Balmain background and Chair of Wests Tigers Football Committee - I will have to assume he is one of the "independents"

Rick Wayde = comes from Wests Magpies football club but also director of Wests Ashfield, and is also on Holman Barnes

 

I actually asked this exact question of the club yesterday, it really is a convoluted mess in reality. Danny Stapleton is one of the independents. Now in relation to WSDRLFC and their representation on the Wests Tigers board, the only place that is stated is on the Wests Magpies website. From my discussion yesterday I am not sure they have a seat, though they do have representation at this point in time through the guys you mentioned. I don't think it really matters if they do have seat as the WSDRLFC is completed controlled by the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield) as they appoint the majority of members to that board.

 

It is interesting as a very small number of people essentially have control of the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield), WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers as the majority of seats on the boards of WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers are appointed by the Holman Group. The board of the Holman Group is made up of 2 directors elected by the general membership of Holman Group (Wests Ashfield). The other 5 directors come from the Debenture Holders of the Holman Group, this is only 20 people. In reality those 20 people have control of all 3 boards and are the only people who can make genuine changes at board level throughout the clubs.

 

 

yeah this was my reading as well. Those invite only debenture holders in Wests Ashfield control everything even though there are other minority interests on each subsidiary board. If people are upset with how the club is run then ultimately those 20 people are responsible 

 


   
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In the midst of the Maguire sacking rumours in early 2022, Andrew Moore (ABC Grandstand) replied to a caller comment with the words: "We all know the problems with the Tigers run way beyond the coach". Clearly, that extends all the way to the position of Chairman Mouth (Lee H). What an embarrassment he is.

You either agree with him and Pascoe being immune from criticism, or you're "demented". I didn't hear the interview, but if the quotes from it on here are true, he needs to go. He's just a rich fan-boy. He's not a leader or a positive influence on the club in any form at all. Utterly disgraceful.

 


   
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In the midst of the Maguire sacking rumours in early 2022, Andrew Moore (ABC Grandstand) replied to a caller comment with the words: "We all know the problems with the Tigers run way beyond the coach". Clearly, that extends all the way to the position of Chairman Mouth (Lee H). What an embarrassment he is.

You either agree with him and Pascoe being immune from criticism, or you're "demented". I didn't hear the interview, but if the quotes from it on here are true, he needs to go. He's just a rich fan-boy. He's not a leader or a positive influence on the club in any form at all. Utterly disgraceful.

 

apart from the millions of dollars he pumps in of course 

 


   
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Posted by: @garry

Posted by: @jirskyr

Posted by: @garry

Posted by: @jirskyr

Posted by: @tigertownsfs

Posted by: @tiger_alex

Look its as simple as this...

Any "Boss" that cannot take criticism from those within that are all trying to aim for a successful entity obviously has some superiority complexes that aren't good.

Maybe... just maybe if Justin Pascoe had a calm discussion with this bloke and listened and took his comments on board there would not have been a heated discussion in front of sponsors in the first place.

not sure it’s that simple. Pascoe reports to the WT where WSDRL club have a seat. If anything this bloke is closer to Pascoes boss 

 

No they don't? Only Wests Ashfield has seats (and 2 for Balmain). WA then fund the junior comps under their charter. Wests Football Club has no ownership or oversight whatsoever of Wests Tigers.

 

 

That is not correct, the Wests Tigers are owned 90% by Wests magpies Pty ltd, which is made up of 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% WSDRLC. WSDRLC also holds one seat on the Wests Tigers board.

 

Balmain own 10% and have 1 seat.

 

Thanks for clearing up and apologies for the mistake. I couldn't find any reference at all to WSDRLC ownership and it's become even more murkier since they incorporated Holman Barnes. However I can see now the info is on the Wests Magpies website.

What I find misleading is that although Wests Magpies is apparently 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% Wests District, Holman Barnes (AKA Wests Ashfield) hold a 4/3 majority at Wests District and 100% of the Wests appointees to the Wests Tigers board are Holman Barnes directors.

So who exactly is the Wests District representative at Wests Tigers and what does that mean if they simultaneously represent Holman Barnes? It almost makes the 66/33 split meaningless if Holman Barnes put all their people on the WT Board and control voting on Wests District.

 

Lee H = independent Chair

Tony Andreacchio - he is part of WSDRLC but he's also a Wests Ashfield member and Chairman of Holman Barnes

Dennis Burgess - from Wests Ashfield and also a director of Holman Barnes

Simon Cook = CEO of Wests Ashfield

James Myatt = director of Balmain

Julie Romero - another director of Holman Barnes

Danny Stapleton - Balmain background and Chair of Wests Tigers Football Committee - I will have to assume he is one of the "independents"

Rick Wayde = comes from Wests Magpies football club but also director of Wests Ashfield, and is also on Holman Barnes

 

I actually asked this exact question of the club yesterday, it really is a convoluted mess in reality. Danny Stapleton is one of the independents. Now in relation to WSDRLFC and their representation on the Wests Tigers board, the only place that is stated is on the Wests Magpies website. From my discussion yesterday I am not sure they have a seat, though they do have representation at this point in time through the guys you mentioned. I don't think it really matters if they do have seat as the WSDRLFC is completed controlled by the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield) as they appoint the majority of members to that board.

 

It is interesting as a very small number of people essentially have control of the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield), WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers as the majority of seats on the boards of WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers are appointed by the Holman Group. The board of the Holman Group is made up of 2 directors elected by the general membership of Holman Group (Wests Ashfield). The other 5 directors come from the Debenture Holders of the Holman Group, this is only 20 people. In reality those 20 people have control of all 3 boards and are the only people who can make genuine changes at board level throughout the clubs.

 

Im not sure on what planet Danny Stapleton would be considered "independent". Many generations at Balmain.

 


   
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Posted by: @tigersteve

Posted by: @mercy-rule

In the midst of the Maguire sacking rumours in early 2022, Andrew Moore (ABC Grandstand) replied to a caller comment with the words: "We all know the problems with the Tigers run way beyond the coach". Clearly, that extends all the way to the position of Chairman Mouth (Lee H). What an embarrassment he is.

You either agree with him and Pascoe being immune from criticism, or you're "demented". I didn't hear the interview, but if the quotes from it on here are true, he needs to go. He's just a rich fan-boy. He's not a leader or a positive influence on the club in any form at all. Utterly disgraceful.

 

apart from the millions of dollars he pumps in of course 

 

I have a problem with the notion that Lee “pumps money into the club”.

He buys sponsorship and in return receives exposure for his business which will equal dollars for him.

He also does this at other NRL clubs plus the NSWRL.

A philanthropist he is not.

 


   
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Posted by: @tiger5150

Posted by: @garry

Posted by: @jirskyr

Posted by: @garry

Posted by: @jirskyr

Posted by: @tigertownsfs

Posted by: @tiger_alex

Look its as simple as this...

Any "Boss" that cannot take criticism from those within that are all trying to aim for a successful entity obviously has some superiority complexes that aren't good.

Maybe... just maybe if Justin Pascoe had a calm discussion with this bloke and listened and took his comments on board there would not have been a heated discussion in front of sponsors in the first place.

not sure it’s that simple. Pascoe reports to the WT where WSDRL club have a seat. If anything this bloke is closer to Pascoes boss 

 

No they don't? Only Wests Ashfield has seats (and 2 for Balmain). WA then fund the junior comps under their charter. Wests Football Club has no ownership or oversight whatsoever of Wests Tigers.

 

 

That is not correct, the Wests Tigers are owned 90% by Wests magpies Pty ltd, which is made up of 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% WSDRLC. WSDRLC also holds one seat on the Wests Tigers board.

 

Balmain own 10% and have 1 seat.

 

Thanks for clearing up and apologies for the mistake. I couldn't find any reference at all to WSDRLC ownership and it's become even more murkier since they incorporated Holman Barnes. However I can see now the info is on the Wests Magpies website.

What I find misleading is that although Wests Magpies is apparently 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% Wests District, Holman Barnes (AKA Wests Ashfield) hold a 4/3 majority at Wests District and 100% of the Wests appointees to the Wests Tigers board are Holman Barnes directors.

So who exactly is the Wests District representative at Wests Tigers and what does that mean if they simultaneously represent Holman Barnes? It almost makes the 66/33 split meaningless if Holman Barnes put all their people on the WT Board and control voting on Wests District.

 

Lee H = independent Chair

Tony Andreacchio - he is part of WSDRLC but he's also a Wests Ashfield member and Chairman of Holman Barnes

Dennis Burgess - from Wests Ashfield and also a director of Holman Barnes

Simon Cook = CEO of Wests Ashfield

James Myatt = director of Balmain

Julie Romero - another director of Holman Barnes

Danny Stapleton - Balmain background and Chair of Wests Tigers Football Committee - I will have to assume he is one of the "independents"

Rick Wayde = comes from Wests Magpies football club but also director of Wests Ashfield, and is also on Holman Barnes

 

I actually asked this exact question of the club yesterday, it really is a convoluted mess in reality. Danny Stapleton is one of the independents. Now in relation to WSDRLFC and their representation on the Wests Tigers board, the only place that is stated is on the Wests Magpies website. From my discussion yesterday I am not sure they have a seat, though they do have representation at this point in time through the guys you mentioned. I don't think it really matters if they do have seat as the WSDRLFC is completed controlled by the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield) as they appoint the majority of members to that board.

 

It is interesting as a very small number of people essentially have control of the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield), WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers as the majority of seats on the boards of WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers are appointed by the Holman Group. The board of the Holman Group is made up of 2 directors elected by the general membership of Holman Group (Wests Ashfield). The other 5 directors come from the Debenture Holders of the Holman Group, this is only 20 people. In reality those 20 people have control of all 3 boards and are the only people who can make genuine changes at board level throughout the clubs.

 

Im not sure on what planet Danny Stapleton would be considered "independent". Many generations at Balmain.

 

That is correct but he fills one of the independent seats on the board.

 

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Posted by: @celtic_tiger

Posted by: @tigersteve

Posted by: @mercy-rule

In the midst of the Maguire sacking rumours in early 2022, Andrew Moore (ABC Grandstand) replied to a caller comment with the words: "We all know the problems with the Tigers run way beyond the coach". Clearly, that extends all the way to the position of Chairman Mouth (Lee H). What an embarrassment he is.

You either agree with him and Pascoe being immune from criticism, or you're "demented". I didn't hear the interview, but if the quotes from it on here are true, he needs to go. He's just a rich fan-boy. He's not a leader or a positive influence on the club in any form at all. Utterly disgraceful.

 

apart from the millions of dollars he pumps in of course 

 

I have a problem with the notion that Lee “pumps money into the club”.

He buys sponsorship and in return receives exposure for his business which will equal dollars for him.

He also does this at other NRL clubs plus the NSWRL.

A philanthropist he is not.

 

Correct. I have no problem him being a sponsor, it’s the chairman’s spot that irks.

 

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Posted by: @garry

Posted by: @tiger5150

Posted by: @garry

Posted by: @jirskyr

Posted by: @garry

Posted by: @jirskyr

Posted by: @tigertownsfs

Posted by: @tiger_alex

Look its as simple as this...

Any "Boss" that cannot take criticism from those within that are all trying to aim for a successful entity obviously has some superiority complexes that aren't good.

Maybe... just maybe if Justin Pascoe had a calm discussion with this bloke and listened and took his comments on board there would not have been a heated discussion in front of sponsors in the first place.

not sure it’s that simple. Pascoe reports to the WT where WSDRL club have a seat. If anything this bloke is closer to Pascoes boss 

 

No they don't? Only Wests Ashfield has seats (and 2 for Balmain). WA then fund the junior comps under their charter. Wests Football Club has no ownership or oversight whatsoever of Wests Tigers.

 

 

That is not correct, the Wests Tigers are owned 90% by Wests magpies Pty ltd, which is made up of 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% WSDRLC. WSDRLC also holds one seat on the Wests Tigers board.

 

Balmain own 10% and have 1 seat.

 

Thanks for clearing up and apologies for the mistake. I couldn't find any reference at all to WSDRLC ownership and it's become even more murkier since they incorporated Holman Barnes. However I can see now the info is on the Wests Magpies website.

What I find misleading is that although Wests Magpies is apparently 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% Wests District, Holman Barnes (AKA Wests Ashfield) hold a 4/3 majority at Wests District and 100% of the Wests appointees to the Wests Tigers board are Holman Barnes directors.

So who exactly is the Wests District representative at Wests Tigers and what does that mean if they simultaneously represent Holman Barnes? It almost makes the 66/33 split meaningless if Holman Barnes put all their people on the WT Board and control voting on Wests District.

 

Lee H = independent Chair

Tony Andreacchio - he is part of WSDRLC but he's also a Wests Ashfield member and Chairman of Holman Barnes

Dennis Burgess - from Wests Ashfield and also a director of Holman Barnes

Simon Cook = CEO of Wests Ashfield

James Myatt = director of Balmain

Julie Romero - another director of Holman Barnes

Danny Stapleton - Balmain background and Chair of Wests Tigers Football Committee - I will have to assume he is one of the "independents"

Rick Wayde = comes from Wests Magpies football club but also director of Wests Ashfield, and is also on Holman Barnes

 

I actually asked this exact question of the club yesterday, it really is a convoluted mess in reality. Danny Stapleton is one of the independents. Now in relation to WSDRLFC and their representation on the Wests Tigers board, the only place that is stated is on the Wests Magpies website. From my discussion yesterday I am not sure they have a seat, though they do have representation at this point in time through the guys you mentioned. I don't think it really matters if they do have seat as the WSDRLFC is completed controlled by the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield) as they appoint the majority of members to that board.

 

It is interesting as a very small number of people essentially have control of the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield), WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers as the majority of seats on the boards of WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers are appointed by the Holman Group. The board of the Holman Group is made up of 2 directors elected by the general membership of Holman Group (Wests Ashfield). The other 5 directors come from the Debenture Holders of the Holman Group, this is only 20 people. In reality those 20 people have control of all 3 boards and are the only people who can make genuine changes at board level throughout the clubs.

 

Im not sure on what planet Danny Stapleton would be considered "independent". Many generations at Balmain.

 

That is correct but he fills one of the independent seats on the board.

 

Fine. And he should be punted.

 

As for his "millions of dollars he pumps into the club", with a more reputable leadership and board structure than currently exists, Chairman Mouth's millions could be replaced with some other corporate group that is more genuinely interested in positioning the WT as a force in modern NRL. This guy is a rich fan-boy. Nothing more, nothing less. And an arrogant and feeble one at that. 

 


   
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Posted by: @mercy-rule

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Posted by: @tigertownsfs

Posted by: @tiger_alex

Look its as simple as this...

Any "Boss" that cannot take criticism from those within that are all trying to aim for a successful entity obviously has some superiority complexes that aren't good.

Maybe... just maybe if Justin Pascoe had a calm discussion with this bloke and listened and took his comments on board there would not have been a heated discussion in front of sponsors in the first place.

not sure it’s that simple. Pascoe reports to the WT where WSDRL club have a seat. If anything this bloke is closer to Pascoes boss 

 

No they don't? Only Wests Ashfield has seats (and 2 for Balmain). WA then fund the junior comps under their charter. Wests Football Club has no ownership or oversight whatsoever of Wests Tigers.

 

 

That is not correct, the Wests Tigers are owned 90% by Wests magpies Pty ltd, which is made up of 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% WSDRLC. WSDRLC also holds one seat on the Wests Tigers board.

 

Balmain own 10% and have 1 seat.

 

Thanks for clearing up and apologies for the mistake. I couldn't find any reference at all to WSDRLC ownership and it's become even more murkier since they incorporated Holman Barnes. However I can see now the info is on the Wests Magpies website.

What I find misleading is that although Wests Magpies is apparently 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% Wests District, Holman Barnes (AKA Wests Ashfield) hold a 4/3 majority at Wests District and 100% of the Wests appointees to the Wests Tigers board are Holman Barnes directors.

So who exactly is the Wests District representative at Wests Tigers and what does that mean if they simultaneously represent Holman Barnes? It almost makes the 66/33 split meaningless if Holman Barnes put all their people on the WT Board and control voting on Wests District.

 

Lee H = independent Chair

Tony Andreacchio - he is part of WSDRLC but he's also a Wests Ashfield member and Chairman of Holman Barnes

Dennis Burgess - from Wests Ashfield and also a director of Holman Barnes

Simon Cook = CEO of Wests Ashfield

James Myatt = director of Balmain

Julie Romero - another director of Holman Barnes

Danny Stapleton - Balmain background and Chair of Wests Tigers Football Committee - I will have to assume he is one of the "independents"

Rick Wayde = comes from Wests Magpies football club but also director of Wests Ashfield, and is also on Holman Barnes

 

I actually asked this exact question of the club yesterday, it really is a convoluted mess in reality. Danny Stapleton is one of the independents. Now in relation to WSDRLFC and their representation on the Wests Tigers board, the only place that is stated is on the Wests Magpies website. From my discussion yesterday I am not sure they have a seat, though they do have representation at this point in time through the guys you mentioned. I don't think it really matters if they do have seat as the WSDRLFC is completed controlled by the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield) as they appoint the majority of members to that board.

 

It is interesting as a very small number of people essentially have control of the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield), WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers as the majority of seats on the boards of WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers are appointed by the Holman Group. The board of the Holman Group is made up of 2 directors elected by the general membership of Holman Group (Wests Ashfield). The other 5 directors come from the Debenture Holders of the Holman Group, this is only 20 people. In reality those 20 people have control of all 3 boards and are the only people who can make genuine changes at board level throughout the clubs.

 

Im not sure on what planet Danny Stapleton would be considered "independent". Many generations at Balmain.

 

That is correct but he fills one of the independent seats on the board.

 

Fine. And he should be punted.

 

 

What has Danny Stapleton done to be worthy of being punted?

 


   
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Look its as simple as this...

Any "Boss" that cannot take criticism from those within that are all trying to aim for a successful entity obviously has some superiority complexes that aren't good.

Maybe... just maybe if Justin Pascoe had a calm discussion with this bloke and listened and took his comments on board there would not have been a heated discussion in front of sponsors in the first place.

not sure it’s that simple. Pascoe reports to the WT where WSDRL club have a seat. If anything this bloke is closer to Pascoes boss 

 

No they don't? Only Wests Ashfield has seats (and 2 for Balmain). WA then fund the junior comps under their charter. Wests Football Club has no ownership or oversight whatsoever of Wests Tigers.

 

 

That is not correct, the Wests Tigers are owned 90% by Wests magpies Pty ltd, which is made up of 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% WSDRLC. WSDRLC also holds one seat on the Wests Tigers board.

 

Balmain own 10% and have 1 seat.

 

Thanks for clearing up and apologies for the mistake. I couldn't find any reference at all to WSDRLC ownership and it's become even more murkier since they incorporated Holman Barnes. However I can see now the info is on the Wests Magpies website.

What I find misleading is that although Wests Magpies is apparently 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% Wests District, Holman Barnes (AKA Wests Ashfield) hold a 4/3 majority at Wests District and 100% of the Wests appointees to the Wests Tigers board are Holman Barnes directors.

So who exactly is the Wests District representative at Wests Tigers and what does that mean if they simultaneously represent Holman Barnes? It almost makes the 66/33 split meaningless if Holman Barnes put all their people on the WT Board and control voting on Wests District.

 

Lee H = independent Chair

Tony Andreacchio - he is part of WSDRLC but he's also a Wests Ashfield member and Chairman of Holman Barnes

Dennis Burgess - from Wests Ashfield and also a director of Holman Barnes

Simon Cook = CEO of Wests Ashfield

James Myatt = director of Balmain

Julie Romero - another director of Holman Barnes

Danny Stapleton - Balmain background and Chair of Wests Tigers Football Committee - I will have to assume he is one of the "independents"

Rick Wayde = comes from Wests Magpies football club but also director of Wests Ashfield, and is also on Holman Barnes

 

I actually asked this exact question of the club yesterday, it really is a convoluted mess in reality. Danny Stapleton is one of the independents. Now in relation to WSDRLFC and their representation on the Wests Tigers board, the only place that is stated is on the Wests Magpies website. From my discussion yesterday I am not sure they have a seat, though they do have representation at this point in time through the guys you mentioned. I don't think it really matters if they do have seat as the WSDRLFC is completed controlled by the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield) as they appoint the majority of members to that board.

 

It is interesting as a very small number of people essentially have control of the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield), WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers as the majority of seats on the boards of WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers are appointed by the Holman Group. The board of the Holman Group is made up of 2 directors elected by the general membership of Holman Group (Wests Ashfield). The other 5 directors come from the Debenture Holders of the Holman Group, this is only 20 people. In reality those 20 people have control of all 3 boards and are the only people who can make genuine changes at board level throughout the clubs.

 

Im not sure on what planet Danny Stapleton would be considered "independent". Many generations at Balmain.

 

That is correct but he fills one of the independent seats on the board.

 

Fine. And he should be punted.

 

 

What has Danny Stapleton done to be worthy of being punted?

 

My apologies to Danny Stapleton. I was referring to Chairman Mouth (Lee H) in being punted. 

 


   
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@mercy-rule I wasn't talking about Lee

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Posted by: @tigertownsfs

Posted by: @tiger_alex

Look its as simple as this...

Any "Boss" that cannot take criticism from those within that are all trying to aim for a successful entity obviously has some superiority complexes that aren't good.

Maybe... just maybe if Justin Pascoe had a calm discussion with this bloke and listened and took his comments on board there would not have been a heated discussion in front of sponsors in the first place.

not sure it’s that simple. Pascoe reports to the WT where WSDRL club have a seat. If anything this bloke is closer to Pascoes boss 

 

No they don't? Only Wests Ashfield has seats (and 2 for Balmain). WA then fund the junior comps under their charter. Wests Football Club has no ownership or oversight whatsoever of Wests Tigers.

 

 

That is not correct, the Wests Tigers are owned 90% by Wests magpies Pty ltd, which is made up of 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% WSDRLC. WSDRLC also holds one seat on the Wests Tigers board.

 

Balmain own 10% and have 1 seat.

 

Thanks for clearing up and apologies for the mistake. I couldn't find any reference at all to WSDRLC ownership and it's become even more murkier since they incorporated Holman Barnes. However I can see now the info is on the Wests Magpies website.

What I find misleading is that although Wests Magpies is apparently 66% Wests Ashfield and 33% Wests District, Holman Barnes (AKA Wests Ashfield) hold a 4/3 majority at Wests District and 100% of the Wests appointees to the Wests Tigers board are Holman Barnes directors.

So who exactly is the Wests District representative at Wests Tigers and what does that mean if they simultaneously represent Holman Barnes? It almost makes the 66/33 split meaningless if Holman Barnes put all their people on the WT Board and control voting on Wests District.

 

Lee H = independent Chair

Tony Andreacchio - he is part of WSDRLC but he's also a Wests Ashfield member and Chairman of Holman Barnes

Dennis Burgess - from Wests Ashfield and also a director of Holman Barnes

Simon Cook = CEO of Wests Ashfield

James Myatt = director of Balmain

Julie Romero - another director of Holman Barnes

Danny Stapleton - Balmain background and Chair of Wests Tigers Football Committee - I will have to assume he is one of the "independents"

Rick Wayde = comes from Wests Magpies football club but also director of Wests Ashfield, and is also on Holman Barnes

 

I actually asked this exact question of the club yesterday, it really is a convoluted mess in reality. Danny Stapleton is one of the independents. Now in relation to WSDRLFC and their representation on the Wests Tigers board, the only place that is stated is on the Wests Magpies website. From my discussion yesterday I am not sure they have a seat, though they do have representation at this point in time through the guys you mentioned. I don't think it really matters if they do have seat as the WSDRLFC is completed controlled by the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield) as they appoint the majority of members to that board.

 

It is interesting as a very small number of people essentially have control of the Holman Group (Wests Ashfield), WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers as the majority of seats on the boards of WSDRLFC and Wests Tigers are appointed by the Holman Group. The board of the Holman Group is made up of 2 directors elected by the general membership of Holman Group (Wests Ashfield). The other 5 directors come from the Debenture Holders of the Holman Group, this is only 20 people. In reality those 20 people have control of all 3 boards and are the only people who can make genuine changes at board level throughout the clubs.

 

Im not sure on what planet Danny Stapleton would be considered "independent". Many generations at Balmain.

 

That is correct but he fills one of the independent seats on the board.

 

Fine. And he should be punted.

 

 

What has Danny Stapleton done to be worthy of being punted?

 

My apologies to Danny Stapleton. I was referring to Chairman Mouth (Lee H) in being punted. 

 

 

 


   
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