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Now that we are going back to our heritage grounds for next year I would love to see the club so things to try and create a culture around game day and support that other clubs have. It has been so long since our club has had success that there is a notable lack of confidence from the home supporters when something goes against us (even Leichhardt can go dead quiet after we concede a try against the run of play as the whole crowd thinks “here we go again”).

 

I would love to see the club setup a fanatic fan zone at one end of the ground at LO (maybe northern terrace) and CSS and sell a membership based on access to that zone. Perhaps link it to the Ambush and allow the fans inside that zone to bring their own creativity to how to create something uniquely Tigers. Think of it as our equivalent of the Blacheys Blues at Origin and give members to that tier of membership a special hat or scarf or something to make it a unique offering.

I like it 👍

 

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Posted by: @tigertownsfs

Now that we are going back to our heritage grounds for next year I would love to see the club so things to try and create a culture around game day and support that other clubs have. It has been so long since our club has had success that there is a notable lack of confidence from the home supporters when something goes against us (even Leichhardt can go dead quiet after we concede a try against the run of play as the whole crowd thinks “here we go again”).

 

I would love to see the club setup a fanatic fan zone at one end of the ground at LO (maybe northern terrace) and CSS and sell a membership based on access to that zone. Perhaps link it to the Ambush and allow the fans inside that zone to bring their own creativity to how to create something uniquely Tigers. Think of it as our equivalent of the Blacheys Blues at Origin and give members to that tier of membership a special hat or scarf or something to make it a unique offering.

 

Love it 

When the Toronto Wolfpack were a thing,  they had a craft beer garden at one  tryzone end of the ground. I believe they kept it open couple hours after the game. It was a hit

 

I'd also like to see a new song or tradition start.

Raiders started the Viking clap and corn and note its a really cool tradition 

 

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Posted by: @tigertownsfs

Now that we are going back to our heritage grounds for next year I would love to see the club so things to try and create a culture around game day and support that other clubs have. It has been so long since our club has had success that there is a notable lack of confidence from the home supporters when something goes against us (even Leichhardt can go dead quiet after we concede a try against the run of play as the whole crowd thinks “here we go again”).

 

I would love to see the club setup a fanatic fan zone at one end of the ground at LO (maybe northern terrace) and CSS and sell a membership based on access to that zone. Perhaps link it to the Ambush and allow the fans inside that zone to bring their own creativity to how to create something uniquely Tigers. Think of it as our equivalent of the Blacheys Blues at Origin and give members to that tier of membership a special hat or scarf or something to make it a unique offering.

 

Love it 

When the Toronto Wolfpack were a thing,  they had a craft beer garden at one  tryzone end of the ground. I believe they kept it open couple hours after the game. It was a hit

 

I'd also like to see a new song or tradition start.

Raiders started the Viking clap and corn and note its a really cool tradition 

 

 

I could see a "craft beer garden" working at LO, maybe over the Glenn Morrison Toilets? Would have to charge a premium though and beers are dangerous enough on the hill.

 


   
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Viking clap is great, from memory that was copied from the NFL potentially.

 

https://www.bengals.com/news/new-traditions-drive-fan-engagement-at-bengals-games

some ideas from the Bengals. Nothing that stands out too much that would apply to Wests Tigers. In previous seasons when the Ambush had more of a presence at home games there was some drummers that created a bit of atmosphere but the club bizarrely hired their own drummers that competed with the ambush drummers and now it seams there are no drummers. I would say for it to feel genuine and authentic it needs to come from the fans and not be club originated. You put the fans into a dedicated zone that represents people who are motivated to get a bit energised and you let them work it out. 

for the weekend games (especially day or twilight games) it would be a no brainer to put on a craft beer festival or similar at one of the lower ovals behind Leichhardt oval like what they have at Henson Park


   
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I’d be in for a craft beer garden when you can watch the game with a small group in a pub type atmosphere. I normally drive to the games but would consider alternatives if I could enjoy some different beers while watching the game without long queues 


   
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I hate the drums, no matter who is whacking them....


   
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Liking this talk of a fanatics/Roar area! That might be enough to get this out of towner back to Leichardt... actually with a craft beer pop-up it definitely would! (there are good mid-strength crafties byw!!)

Love what the Raiders have done with Viking clap - I'm with you @Tiger5150 no drums for me either. That would be enough to keep me away from a supporters area.


   
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I hate the drums, no matter who is whacking them....

Those guys came running down the stairs and hit their drums right in the ear of my son with sensory needs. That was a fun afternoon….

 


   
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Big pass on the drums guys those guys were a shocker so glad we got rid of them. We don't need drums beating at a football game


   
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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/tribalism-and-escapism-vlandys-plan-to-secure-funding-for-sharks/news-story/c7bfb004d052b0e68aa0c7cfd938900d

Money for Shark Park? Bloody hell, how much have they made out of all the apartments?! They should have spent some money on their home ground in their big redevelopment.

 

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/tribalism-and-escapism-vlandys-plan-to-secure-funding-for-sharks/news-story/c7bfb004d052b0e68aa0c7cfd938900d

Money for Shark Park? Bloody hell, how much have they made out of all the apartments?! They should have spent some money on their home ground in their big redevelopment.

 

Agree - I thought the development of their own land was to find the redevelopment of the ground. 

They own their own ground, where we don't own CS or LO, so those councils need state funding for redevelopment

 

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This article on the proposed Hobart Stadium for the Tassie AFL team is very interesting in the AFL stadium business model and how they generally do business.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/when-gillon-called-jeff-the-icy-phone-call-that-lays-bare-tensions-in-tasmania-20230803-p5dtpa.html

It's pretty long but here's an interesting part about the leasing contracts for new stadiums:

 

But it all starts to make sense when you understand stadium economics – known in the AFL world as “clean stadium deals” – and the league’s desire to ­repeat in Tasmania a formula that’s been hugely ­successful for it around Australia.

Under a clean stadium deal, a club can cream off a large chunk of game-day revenue from the taxpayer-owned stadium. The club, for example, will pay a flat fee for the around-ground LED ribbon board and then sell its own advertising on it. It can also charge a premium on the corporate catering and ticket prices. For a club such as Geelong, this can mean an extra $1 million on home game days. “Stadium finances and economics is the biggest driver of financial performance and disparity in the competition,” says Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale, who has long advocated for a team for his home state. “Without a stadium, the Tasmanian team will find it much harder to compete at all levels.”

In the last decade, the AFL has had extraordinary success securing a string of taxpayer-funded and owned infrastructure and venue upgrades as home bases for its clubs. These include the $1.8 billion Perth stadium, the $535 million Adelaide Oval redevelopment and $700 million – the current-cost estimate by Colin Carter – for the Cats home at Kardinia Park. At each of these stadiums the AFL has negotiated lucrative clean stadium deals that underpin club balance sheets. And this is what it wants for the Tasmanian team, too. (Rockliff and the AFL are still negotiating some ­aspects of the stadium deal.)

But clean stadium deals are important for politicians to get right on behalf of the taxpayer. In looking at some of the existing deals, Good Weekend has discovered that while the AFL clubs are doing well out of them, the taxpayer has been left struggling to pay for ongoing maintenance and operational costs. Kardinia Park, for example, is relying on government grants to operate, while the Cats reap lucrative game-day revenues. The organisation that runs Adelaide Oval is making trading losses, and on the Gold Coast the AFL reneged on its commitment to pay the full operational costs for Heritage Bank Stadium (formerly Metricon) in 2018.

 

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This article on the proposed Hobart Stadium for the Tassie AFL team is very interesting in the AFL stadium business model and how they generally do business.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/when-gillon-called-jeff-the-icy-phone-call-that-lays-bare-tensions-in-tasmania-20230803-p5dtpa.html

It's pretty long but here's an interesting part about the leasing contracts for new stadiums:

 

But it all starts to make sense when you understand stadium economics – known in the AFL world as “clean stadium deals” – and the league’s desire to ­repeat in Tasmania a formula that’s been hugely ­successful for it around Australia.

Under a clean stadium deal, a club can cream off a large chunk of game-day revenue from the taxpayer-owned stadium. The club, for example, will pay a flat fee for the around-ground LED ribbon board and then sell its own advertising on it. It can also charge a premium on the corporate catering and ticket prices. For a club such as Geelong, this can mean an extra $1 million on home game days. “Stadium finances and economics is the biggest driver of financial performance and disparity in the competition,” says Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale, who has long advocated for a team for his home state. “Without a stadium, the Tasmanian team will find it much harder to compete at all levels.”

In the last decade, the AFL has had extraordinary success securing a string of taxpayer-funded and owned infrastructure and venue upgrades as home bases for its clubs. These include the $1.8 billion Perth stadium, the $535 million Adelaide Oval redevelopment and $700 million – the current-cost estimate by Colin Carter – for the Cats home at Kardinia Park. At each of these stadiums the AFL has negotiated lucrative clean stadium deals that underpin club balance sheets. And this is what it wants for the Tasmanian team, too. (Rockliff and the AFL are still negotiating some ­aspects of the stadium deal.)

But clean stadium deals are important for politicians to get right on behalf of the taxpayer. In looking at some of the existing deals, Good Weekend has discovered that while the AFL clubs are doing well out of them, the taxpayer has been left struggling to pay for ongoing maintenance and operational costs. Kardinia Park, for example, is relying on government grants to operate, while the Cats reap lucrative game-day revenues. The organisation that runs Adelaide Oval is making trading losses, and on the Gold Coast the AFL reneged on its commitment to pay the full operational costs for Heritage Bank Stadium (formerly Metricon) in 2018.

 

So, at Campbelltown and Leichhardt we don’t pay a usage fee? Thus it’s all profit less the cost of security etc? While if we played at Allianz or Commbank (as examples) we have less chance of a profit? 

 

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This article on the proposed Hobart Stadium for the Tassie AFL team is very interesting in the AFL stadium business model and how they generally do business.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/when-gillon-called-jeff-the-icy-phone-call-that-lays-bare-tensions-in-tasmania-20230803-p5dtpa.html

It's pretty long but here's an interesting part about the leasing contracts for new stadiums:

 

But it all starts to make sense when you understand stadium economics – known in the AFL world as “clean stadium deals” – and the league’s desire to ­repeat in Tasmania a formula that’s been hugely ­successful for it around Australia.

Under a clean stadium deal, a club can cream off a large chunk of game-day revenue from the taxpayer-owned stadium. The club, for example, will pay a flat fee for the around-ground LED ribbon board and then sell its own advertising on it. It can also charge a premium on the corporate catering and ticket prices. For a club such as Geelong, this can mean an extra $1 million on home game days. “Stadium finances and economics is the biggest driver of financial performance and disparity in the competition,” says Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale, who has long advocated for a team for his home state. “Without a stadium, the Tasmanian team will find it much harder to compete at all levels.”

In the last decade, the AFL has had extraordinary success securing a string of taxpayer-funded and owned infrastructure and venue upgrades as home bases for its clubs. These include the $1.8 billion Perth stadium, the $535 million Adelaide Oval redevelopment and $700 million – the current-cost estimate by Colin Carter – for the Cats home at Kardinia Park. At each of these stadiums the AFL has negotiated lucrative clean stadium deals that underpin club balance sheets. And this is what it wants for the Tasmanian team, too. (Rockliff and the AFL are still negotiating some ­aspects of the stadium deal.)

But clean stadium deals are important for politicians to get right on behalf of the taxpayer. In looking at some of the existing deals, Good Weekend has discovered that while the AFL clubs are doing well out of them, the taxpayer has been left struggling to pay for ongoing maintenance and operational costs. Kardinia Park, for example, is relying on government grants to operate, while the Cats reap lucrative game-day revenues. The organisation that runs Adelaide Oval is making trading losses, and on the Gold Coast the AFL reneged on its commitment to pay the full operational costs for Heritage Bank Stadium (formerly Metricon) in 2018.

 

So, at Campbelltown and Leichhardt we don’t pay a usage fee? Thus it’s all profit less the cost of security etc? While if we played at Allianz or Commbank (as examples) we have less chance of a profit? 

 

On the old Stadium Australia/ CommBank deal we were guaranteed $100k for each homegame and then a share of the gate if the crowd was above 20k.

 

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