It doesn't matter who the target audience is, it arrived in my inbox and I'm not a media person. So, I assume it was meant to resonate, in some way, with me.It's laughable that WT would think that statement would do anything to placate a concerned and disillusioned members/fans group. If anything, the number of possible protesters at Accor on Monday should increase. I agree that Chairman Mouth and J-useless Pascoe have misread the room, yet again. In the Deluded Turd Olympics I'm awarding a triple gold medal to Chair, CEO and Kent.https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2023/04/06/reaction-to-false-media-claims/
Did everyone else read that in Lee's voice like i did?
I cant believe the club would do this.
They made the error.
The media piled on to them
The Club corrected the error with a new jersey.
Every could and should at that point move on.
Instead, Chairman and CEO put out another statement to drag the saga on. Further distracting players.
If they had consulted a PR firm prior this further statement would never have been issued. Read the room 🙁
I dont think the fans are the target audience for that statement, I think its a shot across the bow of certain members of the media to be careful about what they say and to not lie or be defamatory about the club.
And, it did. It made me understand that we're nowhere yet near the bottom of the cliff of WT management's disastrous decisions based on petty egos, delusion and arrogance. We're freefalling, that's obvious, but who knows what comes next?
I'm so looking forward to being at Accor on Monday. See you there!
Are you going to the game mate?
In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)
So the Canberra Raiders have done the exact same thing.
Us Military Marine Studio Shooting Alpha Stock Photo 134787158 | Shutterstock
Canberra Raiders NRL ISC 2022 ANZAC Jersey Sizes S-7XL! (thesupporterstore.com.au)
Seems they did it last year
In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)
Mate, you obviously spend more time reading the comments of others than I do. I'm here to express an opinion and I don't care about affirmation or validation from "others". I also don't need to feel more "correct" than others.It doesn't matter who the target audience is, it arrived in my inbox and I'm not a media person. So, I assume it was meant to resonate, in some way, with me.It's laughable that WT would think that statement would do anything to placate a concerned and disillusioned members/fans group. If anything, the number of possible protesters at Accor on Monday should increase. I agree that Chairman Mouth and J-useless Pascoe have misread the room, yet again. In the Deluded Turd Olympics I'm awarding a triple gold medal to Chair, CEO and Kent.https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2023/04/06/reaction-to-false-media-claims/
Did everyone else read that in Lee's voice like i did?
I cant believe the club would do this.
They made the error.
The media piled on to them
The Club corrected the error with a new jersey.
Every could and should at that point move on.
Instead, Chairman and CEO put out another statement to drag the saga on. Further distracting players.
If they had consulted a PR firm prior this further statement would never have been issued. Read the room 🙁
I dont think the fans are the target audience for that statement, I think its a shot across the bow of certain members of the media to be careful about what they say and to not lie or be defamatory about the club.
And, it did. It made me understand that we're nowhere yet near the bottom of the cliff of WT management's disastrous decisions based on petty egos, delusion and arrogance. We're freefalling, that's obvious, but who knows what comes next?
I'm so looking forward to being at Accor on Monday. See you there!
Everyone will see what they wanted to see. 24hrs ago this forum was up in arms about Pascoe lying about collaborating with Holsworthy. Everyone here was up in arms about the club calling it a commemorative jersey and not an ANZAC jersey and the consensus was it was because the club knew that the soldiers werent Aussie. That statement explains that Pascoe didnt lie about Holsworthy (Photos back that up). The statement explains that it was a NRL directive not to call it an ANZAC jersey.
Im glad they made a statement because I want to know the truth. The truth matters to me. To others the narrative is more important to the truth and that statement doesnt support it. These are usually the same people who complain that the club isnt "open and transparent".
And, what do you mean "the truth" matters to you? I'm a bit more circumspect about who is delivering that "truth" before I accept it. Apparently there's even people out there who get their 'truth" from the Daily Telegraph. Unbelievable, I know.
This issue isn't Kent's fault its the clubs
The club has now issued 3 statements on this matter:
1. To justify the image and point the finger at Holsworthy saying they approved the image
2. To apologies and say they will change the image
3. To double down on the first statement and prove they were right.
If they club had of just went with the 2nd statement first (I.e we apologies and we'll change the image immediately) we wouldn't still be talking about it and Kent's would of had nothing else to say.
The club have handled it badly - and I think it's an example where there mentality of 'everyone else is out to get us' means they shoot themselves in the foot
I agree with this. Pointing out that Holsworthy barracks shared blame whilst perhaps technically true was terrible. The barracks was voluntarily helping the club (who was going to use the jersey’s to make money) and now they have been made to look like complete idiots. None of this is about the ANZAC sacrifice, it is about the club making money and for the army I assume it is about trying to make the army look cool/help recruitment. It’s now blown up in our face and I will guarantee you the club will double down next year and do another jersey to prove they can’t be bullied by the media.
i just wish the club would produce some nice heritage jersey’s because they would actually sell like hot cakes.
Come on......I know we all want to jump in the pile on but lets be serious. EVERY club will wear a commemorative jersey for ANZAC day. If the Tigers were the only ones that didnt (because they didnt want to make money out of it), you and Kent and everyone else would be up in arms about the Tigers disrespecting the diggers.
i don’t think any club should make these garish “tribute” jersey’s. if they want to acknowledge the diggers with a poppy that would be nice, if they wanted to donate the sponsorship signage on the front to a cause like legacy then even better. Using the anzac legacy to try and sell 5,000 jersey’s is gross in my opinion. Not everyone will feel that way but in the past there was much more respect for the ANZAC legacy and it was taboo to try and profit off it. That is not a wests tigers thing, that’s a whole of game thing.
Yes, of course.It doesn't matter who the target audience is, it arrived in my inbox and I'm not a media person. So, I assume it was meant to resonate, in some way, with me.It's laughable that WT would think that statement would do anything to placate a concerned and disillusioned members/fans group. If anything, the number of possible protesters at Accor on Monday should increase. I agree that Chairman Mouth and J-useless Pascoe have misread the room, yet again. In the Deluded Turd Olympics I'm awarding a triple gold medal to Chair, CEO and Kent.https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2023/04/06/reaction-to-false-media-claims/
Did everyone else read that in Lee's voice like i did?
I cant believe the club would do this.
They made the error.
The media piled on to them
The Club corrected the error with a new jersey.
Every could and should at that point move on.
Instead, Chairman and CEO put out another statement to drag the saga on. Further distracting players.
If they had consulted a PR firm prior this further statement would never have been issued. Read the room 🙁
I dont think the fans are the target audience for that statement, I think its a shot across the bow of certain members of the media to be careful about what they say and to not lie or be defamatory about the club.
And, it did. It made me understand that we're nowhere yet near the bottom of the cliff of WT management's disastrous decisions based on petty egos, delusion and arrogance. We're freefalling, that's obvious, but who knows what comes next?
I'm so looking forward to being at Accor on Monday. See you there!
Are you going to the game mate?
Mate, you obviously spend more time reading the comments of others than I do. I'm here to express an opinion and I don't care about affirmation or validation from "others". I also don't need to feel more "correct" than others.It doesn't matter who the target audience is, it arrived in my inbox and I'm not a media person. So, I assume it was meant to resonate, in some way, with me.It's laughable that WT would think that statement would do anything to placate a concerned and disillusioned members/fans group. If anything, the number of possible protesters at Accor on Monday should increase. I agree that Chairman Mouth and J-useless Pascoe have misread the room, yet again. In the Deluded Turd Olympics I'm awarding a triple gold medal to Chair, CEO and Kent.https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2023/04/06/reaction-to-false-media-claims/
Did everyone else read that in Lee's voice like i did?
I cant believe the club would do this.
They made the error.
The media piled on to them
The Club corrected the error with a new jersey.
Every could and should at that point move on.
Instead, Chairman and CEO put out another statement to drag the saga on. Further distracting players.
If they had consulted a PR firm prior this further statement would never have been issued. Read the room 🙁
I dont think the fans are the target audience for that statement, I think its a shot across the bow of certain members of the media to be careful about what they say and to not lie or be defamatory about the club.
And, it did. It made me understand that we're nowhere yet near the bottom of the cliff of WT management's disastrous decisions based on petty egos, delusion and arrogance. We're freefalling, that's obvious, but who knows what comes next?
I'm so looking forward to being at Accor on Monday. See you there!
Everyone will see what they wanted to see. 24hrs ago this forum was up in arms about Pascoe lying about collaborating with Holsworthy. Everyone here was up in arms about the club calling it a commemorative jersey and not an ANZAC jersey and the consensus was it was because the club knew that the soldiers werent Aussie. That statement explains that Pascoe didnt lie about Holsworthy (Photos back that up). The statement explains that it was a NRL directive not to call it an ANZAC jersey.
Im glad they made a statement because I want to know the truth. The truth matters to me. To others the narrative is more important to the truth and that statement doesnt support it. These are usually the same people who complain that the club isnt "open and transparent".
not sure how you got "affirmation or validation from others" out of what I posted, but like I said, some only see what they want to see. Do you care if your opinion is based on the truth or not? That is my point in my previous post. The clubs statement set out what the facts are and thats a good thing. It doesnt absolve them from their own stupidity but it at least set out the facts and we can determine how deep the stupidity goes. Yes they were stupid and incompetent by using the wrong image and not checking/validating further....no they didnt lie about Holsworthy, no they werent obfuscating by calling the jersey a "commemorative" jersey.
And, what do you mean "the truth" matters to you? I'm a bit more circumspect about who is delivering that "truth" before I accept it. Apparently there's even people out there who get their 'truth" from the Daily Telegraph. Unbelievable, I know.
The truth matters to me, the facts. Kent lied about the Tigers, he said that Holsworthy hadnt heard from the Tigers and there was no collaboration between Holsworthy and the Tigers. This is not the truth. This is a lie. People lying matter to me, its a principle. I would feel the same (worse) if it was Ppascoe or Lee lying. I know that its a fact because a litigation lawyer stated it in a written statement addressing a wealthy media outlet that contained the word defamation and because I have two eyes and a brain and saw photos of two Tigers players at Holsworthy sitting in a defence helicopter.
This issue isn't Kent's fault its the clubs
The club has now issued 3 statements on this matter:
1. To justify the image and point the finger at Holsworthy saying they approved the image
2. To apologies and say they will change the image
3. To double down on the first statement and prove they were right.
If they club had of just went with the 2nd statement first (I.e we apologies and we'll change the image immediately) we wouldn't still be talking about it and Kent's would of had nothing else to say.
The club have handled it badly - and I think it's an example where there mentality of 'everyone else is out to get us' means they shoot themselves in the foot
I agree with this. Pointing out that Holsworthy barracks shared blame whilst perhaps technically true was terrible. The barracks was voluntarily helping the club (who was going to use the jersey’s to make money) and now they have been made to look like complete idiots. None of this is about the ANZAC sacrifice, it is about the club making money and for the army I assume it is about trying to make the army look cool/help recruitment. It’s now blown up in our face and I will guarantee you the club will double down next year and do another jersey to prove they can’t be bullied by the media.
i just wish the club would produce some nice heritage jersey’s because they would actually sell like hot cakes.
Come on......I know we all want to jump in the pile on but lets be serious. EVERY club will wear a commemorative jersey for ANZAC day. If the Tigers were the only ones that didnt (because they didnt want to make money out of it), you and Kent and everyone else would be up in arms about the Tigers disrespecting the diggers.
i don’t think any club should make these garish “tribute” jersey’s. if they want to acknowledge the diggers with a poppy that would be nice, if they wanted to donate the sponsorship signage on the front to a cause like legacy then even better. Using the anzac legacy to try and sell 5,000 jersey’s is gross in my opinion. Not everyone will feel that way but in the past there was much more respect for the ANZAC legacy and it was taboo to try and profit off it. That is not a wests tigers thing, that’s a whole of game thing.
I agree 100%
In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)
@mercy-rule should catch up for a beer or something mate.
In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)
This issue isn't Kent's fault its the clubs
The club has now issued 3 statements on this matter:
1. To justify the image and point the finger at Holsworthy saying they approved the image
2. To apologies and say they will change the image
3. To double down on the first statement and prove they were right.
If they club had of just went with the 2nd statement first (I.e we apologies and we'll change the image immediately) we wouldn't still be talking about it and Kent's would of had nothing else to say.
The club have handled it badly - and I think it's an example where there mentality of 'everyone else is out to get us' means they shoot themselves in the foot
I agree with this. Pointing out that Holsworthy barracks shared blame whilst perhaps technically true was terrible. The barracks was voluntarily helping the club (who was going to use the jersey’s to make money) and now they have been made to look like complete idiots. None of this is about the ANZAC sacrifice, it is about the club making money and for the army I assume it is about trying to make the army look cool/help recruitment. It’s now blown up in our face and I will guarantee you the club will double down next year and do another jersey to prove they can’t be bullied by the media.
i just wish the club would produce some nice heritage jersey’s because they would actually sell like hot cakes.
Come on......I know we all want to jump in the pile on but lets be serious. EVERY club will wear a commemorative jersey for ANZAC day. If the Tigers were the only ones that didnt (because they didnt want to make money out of it), you and Kent and everyone else would be up in arms about the Tigers disrespecting the diggers.
i don’t think any club should make these garish “tribute” jersey’s. if they want to acknowledge the diggers with a poppy that would be nice, if they wanted to donate the sponsorship signage on the front to a cause like legacy then even better. Using the anzac legacy to try and sell 5,000 jersey’s is gross in my opinion. Not everyone will feel that way but in the past there was much more respect for the ANZAC legacy and it was taboo to try and profit off it. That is not a wests tigers thing, that’s a whole of game thing.
Im with you there
This issue isn't Kent's fault its the clubs
The club has now issued 3 statements on this matter:
1. To justify the image and point the finger at Holsworthy saying they approved the image
2. To apologies and say they will change the image
3. To double down on the first statement and prove they were right.
If they club had of just went with the 2nd statement first (I.e we apologies and we'll change the image immediately) we wouldn't still be talking about it and Kent's would of had nothing else to say.
The club have handled it badly - and I think it's an example where there mentality of 'everyone else is out to get us' means they shoot themselves in the foot
i f Kent didn’t maliciously lie about the club on national tv, it ends at 2.
club clearly screwed up but I’m amazed that people object to the club correcting Kent’s defamatory lying
kents job is to attract eye balls and clicks. Pascoes is to win premierships. Who is doing their job more effectively?
In fairness to Pascoe, winning premierships is exceedingly hard, and he also does a pretty good job of attracting negative eyeballs and negative clicks himself. Probably the most well-known CEO in the comp now, due to the hair and the mistakes.
Everyone will see what they wanted to see. 24hrs ago this forum was up in arms about Pascoe lying about collaborating with Holsworthy. Everyone here was up in arms about the club calling it a commemorative jersey and not an ANZAC jersey and the consensus was it was because the club knew that the soldiers werent Aussie. That statement explains that Pascoe didnt lie about Holsworthy (Photos back that up). The statement explains that it was a NRL directive not to call it an ANZAC jersey.
Im glad they made a statement because I want to know the truth. The truth matters to me. To others the narrative is more important to the truth and that statement doesnt support it. These are usually the same people who complain that the club isnt "open and transparent".
Don't post this in the other forum, you'll have the baboons shrieking "Club shill! Club shill!" before you can draw another breath.
Or to paraphrase your earlier post, you can be both disappointed about club management and also trying to judge each individual issue logically and dispassionately. For some folks it seems to be all or nothing, that you must hate any slight mis-step the Tigers make, or if you push-back on the pile-on, you are branded some kind of blindless shill.
So the Canberra Raiders have done the exact same thing.
Us Military Marine Studio Shooting Alpha Stock Photo 134787158 | Shutterstock
Canberra Raiders NRL ISC 2022 ANZAC Jersey Sizes S-7XL! (thesupporterstore.com.au)
Seems they did it last year
Wow, and also, how predictable. Has this been reported by Fox and other sources?
@jirskyr just in case people haven’t noticed , the raiders have done the exact same thing we did . Yanks on the jersey instead of Aussie’s .
Looks like incompetence can happen anywhere!
I haven’t read back so sorry if I’m repeating others , but our whole marketing/signage/ sponsorship department , are an absolute joke . Basically ever since our media manager went to the nrl . This next crop are an absolute joke , whether it’s screwing up benji on the sign as you walk into the COE , mucking up Heighnos name or coming up with a jersey for Anzac Day that looks Awesome… only for it to be a photo of yanks .
Which by the way , most diggers would have taken one look at that photo and picked out straight away it looks like the US gear/ cam silhouette .
I don’t really blame a CEO for not knowing , as you have to have trust for those underneath you , but how many screw ups from this one department which has one mandate “make the tigers look good to get revenue” . And they consistently screw it up.
To me it reeks of people who
1. Are half arsed in their approach , and think the designs themselves are all that is put out there .
NO YOU DUM DUMs! Most would have rathered a boring arse jersey with a rising sun badge , or slouchy with correct wording , rather than this elaborate awesome jersey , of yanks probably on an exercise and not actually of a war photo.
rant over! It happens too often . Someone should be sacked for this . And not just the CEO . Because he’s not the dum dum who didn’t do his due diligence. He’s just the dum dum who trusted the other ,more incompetent dum dums !!!
