@tigerlily they say the rot starts from the head and pascoe has hair that looks rotted.
@tiger5150 they tick tock their instagram while facebooking their tweets.
@voice_of_reason Why did we offload mybye ? We keeps loosing the little bit of attacking spark we had each year and we have nothing tk replace them with.
with no return and absolutely no accountability shown by our illustrious CEO Justin Pascoe for his inept ability to lead this club.
I want heads to roll starting with the one that’s contributed most to the rot in our great Club “Justin Pascoe”.
What exactly do you want him to do? He's not responsible for the football side of things nor, I believe, the coach. I have no issue with people wanting accountability but it's important you use the hammer on the correct nail. Getting us out of financial problems and managing us through the COE are massive achievements.
I think it’s a bit much to be blaming the CEO for our woes. How many of the following club CEOs have any sort of background, personally associated with or have practical involvement with the coaching or on field performances of their clubs:
Panthers: Brian Fletcher
Sharks: Dino Mezzatesta
Storm: Justin Rodski
Eels: Jim Sarantinos
Roosters: Joe Kelly
Manly: Gary Wolman
Warriors: Cameron George
Cowboys: Jeff Reibel
Rabbits: Blake Solly
Titans: Steve Mitchell
Knights: Phil Gardner
Broncos: Dave Donaghy
Raiders: Don Furner
Dragons: Ryan Webb
Dogs: Aaron Warburton?
The answer is none or rarely – all of these people have backgrounds in business, journalism, management positions in sporting organisations, accounting, law, sports management, registered club administration, marketing. I didn’t bother looking up Gary Wolman who is interim CEO after Humpty left. Of this lot maybe only Humpty and Don Furner Jr might have playing or coaching in their background.
We don’t know what Pascoe’s KPIs are, or whether he’s meeting those or whether they are a reasonable marker. Could someone do a better job as CEO, or is it time for someone else to build on what Pascoe has delivered – quite possibly. But that’s a different argument.
with no return and absolutely no accountability shown by our illustrious CEO Justin Pascoe for his inept ability to lead this club.
I want heads to roll starting with the one that’s contributed most to the rot in our great Club “Justin Pascoe”.
What exactly do you want him to do? He's not responsible for the football side of things nor, I believe, the coach. I have no issue with people wanting accountability but it's important you use the hammer on the correct nail. Getting us out of financial problems and managing us through the COE are massive achievements.
I’ll tell you exactly how Pascoe effects the on field performance. His laid back and 50/50 attitude sets the standard for the club. This filters down from the CEO, Middle Managers and Managers, and throughout all departments. This is the standard that the players see and adopt as the club culture. Nowhere from the CEO down do we strive to be the best of the best. This leads to poor on field performances because it’s accepted and tolerated throughout the organisation. Pascoe has to go.
with no return and absolutely no accountability shown by our illustrious CEO Justin Pascoe for his inept ability to lead this club.
I want heads to roll starting with the one that’s contributed most to the rot in our great Club “Justin Pascoe”.
What exactly do you want him to do? He's not responsible for the football side of things nor, I believe, the coach. I have no issue with people wanting accountability but it's important you use the hammer on the correct nail. Getting us out of financial problems and managing us through the COE are massive achievements.
I’ll tell you exactly how Pascoe effects the on field performance. His laid back and 50/50 attitude sets the standard for the club. This filters down from the CEO, Middle Managers and Managers, and throughout all departments. This is the standard that the players see and adopt as the club culture. Nowhere from the CEO down do we strive to be the best of the best. This leads to poor on field performances because it’s accepted and tolerated throughout the organisation. Pascoe has to go.
Pascoe could be more vocal no doubt, especially in public.
I’ll tell you exactly how Pascoe effects the on field performance. His laid back and 50/50 attitude sets the standard for the club. This filters down from the CEO, Middle Managers and Managers, and throughout all departments.
I'm not a huge fan of his laid back attitude but it doesn't preclude performance. Ivan the terrible is as laid back as they come and he's going OK at Penrith. Comparing rosters however, will tell you a lot.
If we sack Pascoe tomorrow, how does that change our performance for the rest of the year?
I’ll tell you exactly how Pascoe effects the on field performance. His laid back and 50/50 attitude sets the standard for the club. This filters down from the CEO, Middle Managers and Managers, and throughout all departments.
I'm not a huge fan of his laid back attitude but it doesn't preclude performance. Ivan the terrible is as laid back as they come and he's going OK at Penrith. Comparing rosters however, will tell you a lot.
If we sack Pascoe tomorrow, how does that change our performance for the rest of the year?
Cleary is not and never has been a CEO. Sacking Pascoe changes the culture at the very top of the organisation and sets the example of what is and isn’t acceptable.
Cleary is not and never has been a CEO
I know that, but it refutes the point that laid-back can't work.
Cleary is not and never has been a CEO
I know that, but it refutes the point that laid-back can't work.
No it’s doesn’t refute anything. There is a huge difference between the CEO and the rest of the organisation. The CEO is the operational head and sets the example for the rest of the organisation. This sets the culture. Here in lies the problem with the Wests Tigers. Pascoe must go.
No it’s doesn’t refute anything.
Actually it perfectly does. You're suggesting 'laid back' trickles down, leading to a team performing poorly. Ignore the trickle down, the Panthers' coach is as laid back as it gets and they're successful. If you're convinced culture trickles down the Panthers CEO must therefore be laid back, disproving your theory. You can't have it both ways.
Tell me this, what happens against the Eels if we sack Pascoe, or Penrith et al. It will do nothing to help our on-field performance.
Cleary is not and never has been a CEO
I know that, but it refutes the point that laid-back can't work.
No it’s doesn’t refute anything. There is a huge difference between the CEO and the rest of the organisation. The CEO is the operational head and sets the example for the rest of the organisation. This sets the culture. Here in lies the problem with the Wests Tigers. Pascoe must go.
Spot on @Mike, Pascoe, despite his strengths, is not the man to head up a whole organisation and set standards. For example, he has made fun (in my company) of those people who were critical of him for turning up for a press conference unshaved.
Fish rots from the head down and that includes a board that hasn’t kicked any substantial goals in the past five years.
I agree with @Voice_of_reason that the poor results aren’t directly attributable to the CEO, however, ultimately ongoing failure (as a football team) does fall at the feet of the decision makers and those that set the parameters.
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No it’s doesn’t refute anything.
Actually it perfectly does. You're suggesting 'laid back' trickles down, leading to a team performing poorly. Ignore the trickle down, the Panthers' coach is as laid back as it gets and they're successful. If you're convinced culture trickles down the Panthers CEO must therefore be laid back, disproving your theory. You can't have it both ways.
Tell me this, what happens against the Eels if we sack Pascoe, or Penrith et al. It will do nothing to help our on-field performance.
What utter rubbish. The CEO sets the operational standard for the entire organisation. What others do below him is irrelevant. This is what the players see as acceptable standard. The CEO has the operationally responsibility and Pascoe can’t cut it. It starts at the front office. Pascoe has to go.
You have reasoned yourself to the point of paralysis where you do nothing.
The two constants in our years of poor performances is Pascoe and Brooks. Both must go.
Cleary is not and never has been a CEO
I know that, but it refutes the point that laid-back can't work.
No it’s doesn’t refute anything. There is a huge difference between the CEO and the rest of the organisation. The CEO is the operational head and sets the example for the rest of the organisation. This sets the culture. Here in lies the problem with the Wests Tigers. Pascoe must go.
Spot on @Mike, Pascoe, despite his strengths, is not the man to head up a whole organisation and set standards. For example, he has made fun (in my company) of those people who were critical of him for turning up for a press conference unshaved.
Fish rots from the head down and that includes a board that hasn’t kicked any substantial goals in the past five years.
I agree with @Voice_of_reason that the poor results aren’t directly attributable to the CEO, however, ultimately ongoing failure (as a football team) does fall at the feet of the decision makers and those that set the parameters.
Pascoe would be a great CFO, a CEO he is not.
Cleary is not and never has been a CEO
I know that, but it refutes the point that laid-back can't work.
No it’s doesn’t refute anything. There is a huge difference between the CEO and the rest of the organisation. The CEO is the operational head and sets the example for the rest of the organisation. This sets the culture. Here in lies the problem with the Wests Tigers. Pascoe must go.
Spot on @Mike, Pascoe, despite his strengths, is not the man to head up a whole organisation and set standards. For example, he has made fun (in my company) of those people who were critical of him for turning up for a press conference unshaved.
Fish rots from the head down and that includes a board that hasn’t kicked any substantial goals in the past five years.
I agree with @Voice_of_reason that the poor results aren’t directly attributable to the CEO, however, ultimately ongoing failure (as a football team) does fall at the feet of the decision makers and those that set the parameters.
Pascoe would be a great CFO, a CEO he is not.
I don't think he'd be a good CFO either. He has zero financial background. he comes from marketing.
