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Posted by: @helmesy

Musgrove 4 runs for 25 metres, Seyfarth 5 runs for 44 metres. 

Kelma 8 runs for 59 metres.

Our half had more run metres than any forward.


   
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Posted by: @snake

There was some solid defence there today

Garner was good today, hit hard.

Ken not contesting a bomb gifting them a try, not so good. The break in the first minute through the middle, terrible.


   
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Posted by: @snake

@campo Stats bar humbug… There was some solid defence there today , maybe if there was a bit more structure around the ruck ? Yes a bit light on in forwards but the constant barrage for the losses just covers up the real reasons the backs are hapless.Stats are only one aspect .

Solid defence against a team didn’t throw much at us… get some forwards breaking the line with some 2nd phase play this will give the halves at least a platform 


   
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Posted by: @snake

Yes a bit light on in forwards but the constant barrage for the losses just covers up the real reasons the backs are hapless

It shouldn't come as a surprise the forwards were dominated, most people were predicting it yesterday. Late in the game we still had single digit tackles in the opposition half - the halves can't be expected to execute plays without field position - hence the return to 5 tackles and kick them the ball.

We were definitely hurt by the number of repeat sets we conceded by 'playing' at kicks.


   
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I thought when Noddy took over our defence would go backwards (just because loss of intensity and discipline), but I thought our attack would improve and we'd throw the ball around a bit more (as we have noting to lose).

But both or defence and attack has regressed. 

Below is our For and Against - split into our 3 distinct seasons - madge both pre and post Hastings at 7 and then noddys 3 games:

Madge / Brooks at 7
5 games
For - avg 8.8
Ag - avg 21.2

Madge / Hastings at 7
7 games
For - avg 18.3
Ag - ave 24.6

Noddy
3 games
For - avg 6
Ag - avg 29.3

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@frullens very depressing numbers 


   
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For having played such limited minutes this year I thought Doueihi was very good. It should put the argument to bed about if he’s our 6 moving forward as he’s far better than Brooks and Hastings.

Brooks should be in reserve grade next week as he isn’t one of our two best halves and isn’t good at dummy half.

Hastings looks lost out there. Not the player we thought he’d be.

debutants played well, thought Pole in particular was good. He should be there for the rest of the year

Ken and Joe O were both solid and never stopped trying.

Toa is hopeless

Musgrove and Seyfarth - yikes

We need a full top down rebuild.


   
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Posted by: @avocadoontoast

For having played such limited minutes this year I thought Doueihi was very good. It should put the argument to bed about if he’s our 6 moving forward as he’s far better than Brooks and Hastings.

Brooks should be in reserve grade next week as he isn’t one of our two best halves and isn’t good at dummy half.

Hastings looks lost out there. Not the player we thought he’d be.

debutants played well, thought Pole in particular was good. He should be there for the rest of the year

Ken and Joe O were both solid and never stopped trying.

Toa is hopeless

Musgrove and Seyfarth - yikes

We need a full top down rebuild.

for sure we need a rebuild, it needs to start with 2 props and 2 backrowers ASAP. We need to buy some go forward, we hardly got out of our half today


   
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doesn't matter who are in the halves we lack attack and are terrible 

AD has looked far better with the ball than Hastings and Brooks. His kicking game is also superior.

Saying it doesnt make it real. IMO we looked flat as with AD at 6 and the kicking was no better. When Brooks wen tto 6 late in the game and AD to 4, suddenly looked sharper.

 


   
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Posted by: @snake

The protection racket for Brooks has to end this week … there are three available No9’s to choice from , Brooks is no 9 ! He is going to be in the halves or not at all!

He is 4th or 5th best @9. He is our best @ 6.

 


   
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Posted by: @tiger5150
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doesn't matter who are in the halves we lack attack and are terrible 

AD has looked far better with the ball than Hastings and Brooks. His kicking game is also superior.

Saying it doesnt make it real. IMO we looked flat as with AD at 6 and the kicking was no better. When Brooks wen tto 6 late in the game and AD to 4, suddenly looked sharper.

 

Respectfully, that’s absolute rubbish.


   
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Seyfarth and Kelma make a lot of stupid mistakes during the most crucial periods of a game.

Good thing Kelma is off to Manly next.

Seyfarth should be told he needs to find another club also.

Toa is a reverse grader offers nothing.

Daine is a number 6 or 14 he is not a fullback, we need to go after that fullback that played for Fiji in the representative round.


   
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Posted by: @snake

@voice_of_reason Got to stop blaming the forwards they played pretty well today . Attack  starts at the ruck the fact that the halves are being butchered to accommodate for one player just disjoints all movement , the centres seen no decent ball today . Again this is a team that has no idea what’s happening when they have the ball and that goes to coaching or lack of it .. this team has had 2 weeks to organise some type of attacking structure but once again ZIP . Unfortunately at the Tigers it’s who you know it was always going to be a dogs breakfast with Noddy and Farah in the box , Gardiner had the runs  on the board and should of been promoted to interim coach but that’s how it rolls at this club . Hopefully the Noddy/Farah power coaching team can devise a game plan that produces something better than 5 up and kick HOPEFULLY!

 

I agree with you, but Brooks was not at 6 for 50mins today. Hastings was terrible, AD was OK running but his playmaking was terrible (as expected after a long break). An inconvenient truth, Luke Brooks is our best 6.


   
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Posted by: @eastiemagpie

on a positive note, Ken ran hard today. The forwards should look at the way he accelerates into the line and keeps driving the legs.

Ken was a beast. Im not a Nofo fan but he also did his job today well.

 


   
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Posted by: @tigerlily

Seyfarth and Kelma make a lot of stupid mistakes during the most crucial periods of a game.

Good thing Kelma is off to Manly next.

Seyfarth should be told he needs to find another club also.

Toa is a reverse grader offers nothing.

Daine is a number 6 or 14 he is not a fullback, we need to go after that fullback that played for Fiji in the representative round.

Early in the season (rounds 1 or 2) I thight Kelma was going to be an international superstar. He has been rubbish. He may kick on at Manly but they are pretty well stocked for forwards.

 

I thought To'a has shown some strong enough momnet to be a first grader in this rubbish field. Daine is struggling well but not an elite FB.

 


   
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