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@voice_of_reason well rewatch the last 2 minutes and you tell me that incompetent didn’t want the roosters to score 70? Mate we were trash last night, don’t get me wrong on that front. But the end of the day JT was just frustrated to the max. I know I would have reacted very similar to him. Being a red head as I am it might have been worse. 😂


   
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Not sure how the club can look any of us in the eye with an expectation that we keep turning up.

And it’s time the playing group grow up and show the jersey and fans some respect.

It is getting harder and harder to follow modern rugby league players. Rather than demanding what position they play and getting their managers to constantly haggle for increased worth, maybe these self entitled spoilt brats should revert to old fashioned values of humility, hard work and the adage that success is earned not entitled.

As for the continuing Brooks debate. Yes, he is a poor organising half but I’ve never seen him give less than 100%. Madden tried last night. Doueihi I have no comment on. Anyone who doesn’t think Brooks would have been a superior defensive option last night has lost all objectivity in my opinion.


   
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Posted by: @tigersteve

Not sure how the club can look any of us in the eye with an expectation that we keep turning up.

And it’s time the playing group grow up and show the jersey and fans some respect.

It is getting harder and harder to follow modern rugby league players. Rather than demanding what position they play and getting their managers to constantly haggle for increased worth, maybe these self entitled spoilt brats should revert to old fashioned values of humility, hard work and the adage that success is earned not entitled.

As for the continuing Brooks debate. Yes, he is a poor organising half but I’ve never seen him give less than 100%. Madden tried last night. Doueihi I have no comment on. Anyone who doesn’t think Brooks would have been a superior defensive option last night has lost all objectivity in my opinion.

Brooks missed tackle stats are amongst the worst in the comp so it’s a massive reach to say he would have made a difference defensively last night.

Also I think it’s pretty poor form to throw a 24 year old under the bus after two poor games in his first season back after a second ACL injury.

Accusations and insinuations that he’s tanking are particularly unnecessary.


   
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Posted by: @celtic_tiger
Posted by: @tigersteve

Not sure how the club can look any of us in the eye with an expectation that we keep turning up.

And it’s time the playing group grow up and show the jersey and fans some respect.

It is getting harder and harder to follow modern rugby league players. Rather than demanding what position they play and getting their managers to constantly haggle for increased worth, maybe these self entitled spoilt brats should revert to old fashioned values of humility, hard work and the adage that success is earned not entitled.

As for the continuing Brooks debate. Yes, he is a poor organising half but I’ve never seen him give less than 100%. Madden tried last night. Doueihi I have no comment on. Anyone who doesn’t think Brooks would have been a superior defensive option last night has lost all objectivity in my opinion.

Brooks missed tackle stats are amongst the worst in the comp so it’s a massive reach to say he would have made a difference defensively last night.

Also I think it’s pretty poor form to throw a 24 year old under the bus after two poor games in his first season back after a second ACL injury.

Accusations and insinuations that he’s tanking are particularly unnecessary.

Not sure who you’re referring to but I definitely haven’t stated that Doueihi was tanking.


   
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@tigersteve you implied that he wasn’t giving his 100 percent best…


   
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Posted by: @tigersteve
Posted by: @celtic_tiger
Posted by: @tigersteve

Not sure how the club can look any of us in the eye with an expectation that we keep turning up.

And it’s time the playing group grow up and show the jersey and fans some respect.

It is getting harder and harder to follow modern rugby league players. Rather than demanding what position they play and getting their managers to constantly haggle for increased worth, maybe these self entitled spoilt brats should revert to old fashioned values of humility, hard work and the adage that success is earned not entitled.

As for the continuing Brooks debate. Yes, he is a poor organising half but I’ve never seen him give less than 100%. Madden tried last night. Doueihi I have no comment on. Anyone who doesn’t think Brooks would have been a superior defensive option last night has lost all objectivity in my opinion.

Brooks missed tackle stats are amongst the worst in the comp so it’s a massive reach to say he would have made a difference defensively last night.

Also I think it’s pretty poor form to throw a 24 year old under the bus after two poor games in his first season back after a second ACL injury.

Accusations and insinuations that he’s tanking are particularly unnecessary.

Not sure who you’re referring to but I definitely haven’t stated that Doueihi was tanking.

If you look around this forum and other Tigers forums and socials you’ll find plenty openly accusing Douehi of tanking and many others like yourself, implying he wasn’t giving 100%.

I’m concerned about Adam, I watched his interview from after the Newcastle game and he was visibly upset with the performance and the result and struggled to even get the words out. Contrary to reports he did shake hands with some of the Roosters players post match last night but he did head quickly up the tunnel.

For a young man coming back from his second potentially career ending injury I believe he needs the club, members and fans to get around him and give him the support he needs. He certainly doesn’t need vilification and accusations of throwing matches.


   
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Posted by: @declan

@tigersteve you implied that he wasn’t giving his 100 percent best…

Don’t put words in my mouth. I said no such thing. I didn’t comment because I didn’t want to say he had a crap game. Simple as that.


   
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Posted by: @celtic_tiger
Posted by: @tigersteve
Posted by: @celtic_tiger
Posted by: @tigersteve

Not sure how the club can look any of us in the eye with an expectation that we keep turning up.

And it’s time the playing group grow up and show the jersey and fans some respect.

It is getting harder and harder to follow modern rugby league players. Rather than demanding what position they play and getting their managers to constantly haggle for increased worth, maybe these self entitled spoilt brats should revert to old fashioned values of humility, hard work and the adage that success is earned not entitled.

As for the continuing Brooks debate. Yes, he is a poor organising half but I’ve never seen him give less than 100%. Madden tried last night. Doueihi I have no comment on. Anyone who doesn’t think Brooks would have been a superior defensive option last night has lost all objectivity in my opinion.

Brooks missed tackle stats are amongst the worst in the comp so it’s a massive reach to say he would have made a difference defensively last night.

Also I think it’s pretty poor form to throw a 24 year old under the bus after two poor games in his first season back after a second ACL injury.

Accusations and insinuations that he’s tanking are particularly unnecessary.

Not sure who you’re referring to but I definitely haven’t stated that Doueihi was tanking.

If you look around this forum and other Tigers forums and socials you’ll find plenty openly accusing Douehi of tanking and many others like yourself, implying he wasn’t giving 100%.

I’m concerned about Adam, I watched his interview from after the Newcastle game and he was visibly upset with the performance and the result and struggled to even get the words out. Contrary to reports he did shake hands with some of the Roosters players post match last night but he did head quickly up the tunnel.

For a young man coming back from his second potentially career ending injury I believe he needs the club, members and fans to get around him and give him the support he needs. He certainly doesn’t need vilification and accusations of throwing matches.

I certainly didn’t imply that. You are putting words in my mouth which I don’t particularly appreciate


   
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Posted by: @chook

I like Nu Brown and think he should definitely be in the top 30 for next year. Solid player that can cover our 6, 7 or 9 at a pinch. However, I would not be playing him 80minutes like last night. Surely Jake Simpkin gets added to the bench for the last two games. 

AJ first centre picked for 2023. The kid deserves it.

I read on Twitter Fonua Pole is not in the top 30 for next year?? Surely a few announcements coming soon.. Pole and Hastings.. Please! 

 

My word for the game is.. Daylight 

Pole is top 30 next year.

In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)


   
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Posted by: @campo
Posted by: @chook

I like Nu Brown and think he should definitely be in the top 30 for next year. Solid player that can cover our 6, 7 or 9 at a pinch. However, I would not be playing him 80minutes like last night. Surely Jake Simpkin gets added to the bench for the last two games. 

AJ first centre picked for 2023. The kid deserves it.

I read on Twitter Fonua Pole is not in the top 30 for next year?? Surely a few announcements coming soon.. Pole and Hastings.. Please! 

 

My word for the game is.. Daylight 

Brown had no runs all game, very poor game plan from the coach

He really only seems to run when we are close to the line.

In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)


   
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Posted by: @celtic_tiger
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Posted by: @celtic_tiger
Posted by: @tigersteve

Not sure how the club can look any of us in the eye with an expectation that we keep turning up.

And it’s time the playing group grow up and show the jersey and fans some respect.

It is getting harder and harder to follow modern rugby league players. Rather than demanding what position they play and getting their managers to constantly haggle for increased worth, maybe these self entitled spoilt brats should revert to old fashioned values of humility, hard work and the adage that success is earned not entitled.

As for the continuing Brooks debate. Yes, he is a poor organising half but I’ve never seen him give less than 100%. Madden tried last night. Doueihi I have no comment on. Anyone who doesn’t think Brooks would have been a superior defensive option last night has lost all objectivity in my opinion.

Brooks missed tackle stats are amongst the worst in the comp so it’s a massive reach to say he would have made a difference defensively last night.

Also I think it’s pretty poor form to throw a 24 year old under the bus after two poor games in his first season back after a second ACL injury.

Accusations and insinuations that he’s tanking are particularly unnecessary.

Not sure who you’re referring to but I definitely haven’t stated that Doueihi was tanking.

If you look around this forum and other Tigers forums and socials you’ll find plenty openly accusing Douehi of tanking and many others like yourself, implying he wasn’t giving 100%.

I’m concerned about Adam, I watched his interview from after the Newcastle game and he was visibly upset with the performance and the result and struggled to even get the words out. Contrary to reports he did shake hands with some of the Roosters players post match last night but he did head quickly up the tunnel.

For a young man coming back from his second potentially career ending injury I believe he needs the club, members and fans to get around him and give him the support he needs. He certainly doesn’t need vilification and accusations of throwing matches.

I don't think he was throwing the match, I think he is a strong runner of the ball, but is a poor defender and doesn't lift the game of the players around him. I think we need more form our 6 than someone that is a good ball runner.

In memory of Geoff Chisholm (1965-2022)


   
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@tigersteve I certainly have not said Douhie is tanking either just don't think defensively he is at the standard of an nrl number 6


   
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Posted by: @tigersteve

Not sure how the club can look any of us in the eye with an expectation that we keep turning up.

And it’s time the playing group grow up and show the jersey and fans some respect.

It is getting harder and harder to follow modern rugby league players. Rather than demanding what position they play and getting their managers to constantly haggle for increased worth, maybe these self entitled spoilt brats should revert to old fashioned values of humility, hard work and the adage that success is earned not entitled.

As for the continuing Brooks debate. Yes, he is a poor organising half but I’ve never seen him give less than 100%. Madden tried last night. Doueihi I have no comment on. Anyone who doesn’t think Brooks would have been a superior defensive option last night has lost all objectivity in my opinion.

Well said on all counts.


   
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Posted by: @declan

@tigersteve you implied that he wasn’t giving his 100 percent best…

I dont think Tigersteve did imply that.....but I will.

I am going to come and say unequivocally that last night Adam Doueihi dogged it, tanked, did not try 100%. Choose your favourite.

I was at the game last night and I have not watched the replay (nor am I likely to). I was in a corporate box at the SCG which also means I was a long way from the game/players, but I also had a very unique view of the game that I usually dont get, almost a birds eye view which was a new experience for me.

There is something wrong with Adam Doueihi and I dont mean physical/injury. From the first set of the match, Doueihi kept walking into position. Not once or twice, ALWAYS. Sometimes for 3 or 4 plays straight, not change into a jog even, just walking around. In defence he was walking to the line, even a few times there would be a hole in the line where he was supposed to be and he would casually walk such that he was in position when the ball got to his side of the field. Everyone else was running to where they were supposed to be and in the line and he would just walk to his hole in the line. I was shaking my head. Early in the game, I couldnt work it out and I actually thought that maybe he was high on his own hype and thought he was above all this and didnt need to work like the plebs do. As the game went on i started to worry it is something even more worrying.

It was not just me. I was in a box with 12 roosters fans, most have played the game and they were asking me what Doueihi's story was.

He would miss tackles, make mistakes and other than one dropped ball, it actually looked like he didnt care. He DID run off without shaking hands with anyone and I saw that with my own two eyes. It was very strange. He was OUTTA THERE!

This is a guy who talks about wanting to be a leader of our club, talks about wanting to be captain. What kind of leadership is it when other lesser paid players watch you walking around? What kind of leadership is it when after a savage flogging you cant even hang around to console and encourage your team mates?

Everything on this and other forums tends to degenerate into a Doueihi v Brooks binary. I have NOT been anti Doueihi at all, I acknowledge that he has been one of our more dangerous players in attack. I am anti Doueihi at 6 because I don't believe he is a halves bootlace. I am 100% anti Doueihi after what I saw last night. In 50years of following my club, I have never seen a performance like that last night. Personally, , I dont want him at 6 and he must never lead this team or club. TBH, right now, I don't want him at the club. he disgusts me right now.

There is something badly wrong with him. Whether it is his nose out of joint about not going to the Storm, wanting more money, embarrassed about being in this team, I dont know what it is, but something is not right. He is NOT part of this team right now.

I fear that this team/club is broken. The saddest part of last night was watching Joffa waling around the ground with his kid, in his 150th game.....all alone. None of his mates hanging around.


   
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Posted by: @tiger5150
Posted by: @tigersteve

Not sure how the club can look any of us in the eye with an expectation that we keep turning up.

And it’s time the playing group grow up and show the jersey and fans some respect.

It is getting harder and harder to follow modern rugby league players. Rather than demanding what position they play and getting their managers to constantly haggle for increased worth, maybe these self entitled spoilt brats should revert to old fashioned values of humility, hard work and the adage that success is earned not entitled.

As for the continuing Brooks debate. Yes, he is a poor organising half but I’ve never seen him give less than 100%. Madden tried last night. Doueihi I have no comment on. Anyone who doesn’t think Brooks would have been a superior defensive option last night has lost all objectivity in my opinion.

Well said on all counts.

Does anyone think that 75-90%of our team being indigenous has any weight on our performances these 11 years?


   
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