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I’m actually in Campbelltown today and each time I come here I really get the sense that it is separate to Sydney. The Macarthur region needs its own team but I think it’s only going to work if it’s a 100% commitment, not a Sydney club that swans in and out.

Do we really want to be that commuted? Is there a way of making this work when the COE is in Concord? I just don’t know.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Agree, it needs its own team. Not a half hearted attempt. That has failed before and will fail again.  

With the COE at Concord, Campbelltown is not our future full time.

The SFS, Stadium Australia or a purpose built stadium at Homebush are our best options at growing the brand, at both the fan and corporate level. Anything less and we are taking a backwards step (again). 

We need some forward thinking on this.

The growth out West is surpassed by the growth in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. They are not stagnant. The number of units going up is growing continuously, accelerating even and won’t stop anytime soon. Look up. The 1/4 acre blocks are going and making way for units upon units. This seems to be ignored by our chairman and it will be to his detriment if he continues to do so. 

I can’t argue with any of that Mike.

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I’m actually in Campbelltown today and each time I come here I really get the sense that it is separate to Sydney. The Macarthur region needs its own team but I think it’s only going to work if it’s a 100% commitment, not a Sydney club that swans in and out.

Do we really want to be that commuted? Is there a way of making this work when the COE is in Concord? I just don’t know.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Agree, it needs its own team. Not a half hearted attempt. That has failed before and will fail again.  

With the COE at Concord, Campbelltown is not our future full time.

The SFS, Stadium Australia or a purpose built stadium at Homebush are our best options at growing the brand, at both the fan and corporate level. Anything less and we are taking a backwards step (again). 

We need some forward thinking on this.

The growth out West is surpassed by the growth in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. They are not stagnant. The number of units going up is growing continuously, accelerating even and won’t stop anytime soon. Look up. The 1/4 acre blocks are going and making way for units upon units. This seems to be ignored by our chairman and it will be to his detriment if he continues to do so. 

I can’t argue with any of that Mike.

I can lol

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Posted by: @mickb

Why isn't concord oval being considered? There is not enough seating based on the redevelopment as it stands today but there is potential for more seating on at least two sides. Concord would be a genuine home ground for the Wests Tigers and importantly its not linked to either Wests or Balmain foundation clubs.

Concord wouldn't be an options with the COE and community centre now taking up too much space to allow a redevelopment. I think it will be able to seat around the 2000 mark.

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Posted by: @helmesy
Posted by: @mike
Posted by: @helmesy

I’m actually in Campbelltown today and each time I come here I really get the sense that it is separate to Sydney. The Macarthur region needs its own team but I think it’s only going to work if it’s a 100% commitment, not a Sydney club that swans in and out.

Do we really want to be that commuted? Is there a way of making this work when the COE is in Concord? I just don’t know.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Agree, it needs its own team. Not a half hearted attempt. That has failed before and will fail again.  

With the COE at Concord, Campbelltown is not our future full time.

The SFS, Stadium Australia or a purpose built stadium at Homebush are our best options at growing the brand, at both the fan and corporate level. Anything less and we are taking a backwards step (again). 

We need some forward thinking on this.

The growth out West is surpassed by the growth in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. They are not stagnant. The number of units going up is growing continuously, accelerating even and won’t stop anytime soon. Look up. The 1/4 acre blocks are going and making way for units upon units. This seems to be ignored by our chairman and it will be to his detriment if he continues to do so. 

I can’t argue with any of that Mike.

Sorry Mike,nothing personal,but I have to say your highly subjective arguments as to the growth of “the inner city and surrounding suburbs” surpassing outer west are not only seriously flawed,but just plain wrong.Go to the bureau of statistics,and also the electoral commission and you will find that the north west,and south west regions have the highest growth rates of Sydney.So if you’re talking of forward thinking,I think it probably beneficial to actually check the figures.Im not denying that there isn’t growth in inner western,north western Sydney but I will argue that Wests Tigers in this particular region has to share its footprint so I believe your argument as to growing a brand out of Homebush is a little flawed.Our territory is bordered by Eels and Dogs.Do we want to share footprint?

Rugby League is controlled now by corporate forces with corporate cut throat tendencies,and when these forces decide by a stroke that we should no longer exist and that we are expendable or should be shifted to Perth,it’s my view that we go to the high growth area that affords us greater security of survival as a Sydney club as well as development.Turning our backs on Macarthur would be madness,and I tend to think the powers that be in our club are thinking along the same lines,given recent announcements.I don’t really understand your argument that our chairman “seems” to be ignoring all the developments of the inner west and to his detriment.


   
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Posted by: @tiger-symmetry
Posted by: @helmesy
Posted by: @mike
Posted by: @helmesy

I’m actually in Campbelltown today and each time I come here I really get the sense that it is separate to Sydney. The Macarthur region needs its own team but I think it’s only going to work if it’s a 100% commitment, not a Sydney club that swans in and out.

Do we really want to be that commuted? Is there a way of making this work when the COE is in Concord? I just don’t know.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Agree, it needs its own team. Not a half hearted attempt. That has failed before and will fail again.  

With the COE at Concord, Campbelltown is not our future full time.

The SFS, Stadium Australia or a purpose built stadium at Homebush are our best options at growing the brand, at both the fan and corporate level. Anything less and we are taking a backwards step (again). 

We need some forward thinking on this.

The growth out West is surpassed by the growth in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. They are not stagnant. The number of units going up is growing continuously, accelerating even and won’t stop anytime soon. Look up. The 1/4 acre blocks are going and making way for units upon units. This seems to be ignored by our chairman and it will be to his detriment if he continues to do so. 

I can’t argue with any of that Mike.

Sorry Mike,nothing personal,but I have to say your highly subjective arguments as to the growth of “the inner city and surrounding suburbs” surpassing outer west are not only seriously flawed,but just plain wrong.Go to the bureau of statistics,and also the electoral commission and you will find that the north west,and south west regions have the highest growth rates of Sydney.So if you’re talking of forward thinking,I think it probably beneficial to actually check the figures.Im not denying that there isn’t growth in inner western,north western Sydney but I will argue that Wests Tigers in this particular region has to share its footprint so I believe your argument as to growing a brand out of Homebush is a little flawed.Our territory is bordered by Eels and Dogs.Do we want to share footprint?

Rugby League is controlled now by corporate forces with corporate cut throat tendencies,and when these forces decide by a stroke that we should no longer exist and that we are expendable or should be shifted to Perth,it’s my view that we go to the high growth area that affords us greater security of survival as a Sydney club as well as development.Turning our backs on Macarthur would be madness,and I tend to think the powers that be in our club are thinking along the same lines,given recent announcements.I don’t really understand your argument that our chairman “seems” to be ignoring all the developments of the inner west and to his detriment.

Not so. The bureau of statistics is old data, it’s not up to date. The growth out west is a myth. The real growth is happening in the inner city along the major corridors. The arterial roads, heavy rail and the Metro. The amount of development is unbelievable and it’s accelerating. The money is in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. Ignore it at your peril. 


   
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You know where the corporates are going to be? They won’t be at LO or the CSS they be enjoying the new facilities at the new SFS. That’s where the corporates will go. 


   
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Posted by: @mike
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Posted by: @helmesy
Posted by: @mike
Posted by: @helmesy

I’m actually in Campbelltown today and each time I come here I really get the sense that it is separate to Sydney. The Macarthur region needs its own team but I think it’s only going to work if it’s a 100% commitment, not a Sydney club that swans in and out.

Do we really want to be that commuted? Is there a way of making this work when the COE is in Concord? I just don’t know.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Agree, it needs its own team. Not a half hearted attempt. That has failed before and will fail again.  

With the COE at Concord, Campbelltown is not our future full time.

The SFS, Stadium Australia or a purpose built stadium at Homebush are our best options at growing the brand, at both the fan and corporate level. Anything less and we are taking a backwards step (again). 

We need some forward thinking on this.

The growth out West is surpassed by the growth in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. They are not stagnant. The number of units going up is growing continuously, accelerating even and won’t stop anytime soon. Look up. The 1/4 acre blocks are going and making way for units upon units. This seems to be ignored by our chairman and it will be to his detriment if he continues to do so. 

I can’t argue with any of that Mike.

Sorry Mike,nothing personal,but I have to say your highly subjective arguments as to the growth of “the inner city and surrounding suburbs” surpassing outer west are not only seriously flawed,but just plain wrong.Go to the bureau of statistics,and also the electoral commission and you will find that the north west,and south west regions have the highest growth rates of Sydney.So if you’re talking of forward thinking,I think it probably beneficial to actually check the figures.Im not denying that there isn’t growth in inner western,north western Sydney but I will argue that Wests Tigers in this particular region has to share its footprint so I believe your argument as to growing a brand out of Homebush is a little flawed.Our territory is bordered by Eels and Dogs.Do we want to share footprint?

Rugby League is controlled now by corporate forces with corporate cut throat tendencies,and when these forces decide by a stroke that we should no longer exist and that we are expendable or should be shifted to Perth,it’s my view that we go to the high growth area that affords us greater security of survival as a Sydney club as well as development.Turning our backs on Macarthur would be madness,and I tend to think the powers that be in our club are thinking along the same lines,given recent announcements.I don’t really understand your argument that our chairman “seems” to be ignoring all the developments of the inner west and to his detriment.

Not so. The bureau of statistics is old data, it’s not up to date. The growth out west is a myth. The real growth is happening in the inner city along the major corridors. The arterial roads, heavy rail and the Metro. The amount of development is unbelievable and it’s accelerating. The money is in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. Ignore it at your peril. 

“The growth out west is a myth”.Now that really really takes the cake Mike.If you don’t trust the bureau of stats,refer to the electoral commission where you can apply a more forensic approach to growth figures.


   
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You know where the corporates are going to be? They won’t be at LO or the CSS they be enjoying the new facilities at the new SFS. That’s where the corporates will go. 

Precisely Mike.Rooster Boosters.


   
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Posted by: @tiger-symmetry
Posted by: @mike
Posted by: @tiger-symmetry
Posted by: @helmesy
Posted by: @mike
Posted by: @helmesy

I’m actually in Campbelltown today and each time I come here I really get the sense that it is separate to Sydney. The Macarthur region needs its own team but I think it’s only going to work if it’s a 100% commitment, not a Sydney club that swans in and out.

Do we really want to be that commuted? Is there a way of making this work when the COE is in Concord? I just don’t know.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Agree, it needs its own team. Not a half hearted attempt. That has failed before and will fail again.  

With the COE at Concord, Campbelltown is not our future full time.

The SFS, Stadium Australia or a purpose built stadium at Homebush are our best options at growing the brand, at both the fan and corporate level. Anything less and we are taking a backwards step (again). 

We need some forward thinking on this.

The growth out West is surpassed by the growth in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. They are not stagnant. The number of units going up is growing continuously, accelerating even and won’t stop anytime soon. Look up. The 1/4 acre blocks are going and making way for units upon units. This seems to be ignored by our chairman and it will be to his detriment if he continues to do so. 

I can’t argue with any of that Mike.

Sorry Mike,nothing personal,but I have to say your highly subjective arguments as to the growth of “the inner city and surrounding suburbs” surpassing outer west are not only seriously flawed,but just plain wrong.Go to the bureau of statistics,and also the electoral commission and you will find that the north west,and south west regions have the highest growth rates of Sydney.So if you’re talking of forward thinking,I think it probably beneficial to actually check the figures.Im not denying that there isn’t growth in inner western,north western Sydney but I will argue that Wests Tigers in this particular region has to share its footprint so I believe your argument as to growing a brand out of Homebush is a little flawed.Our territory is bordered by Eels and Dogs.Do we want to share footprint?

Rugby League is controlled now by corporate forces with corporate cut throat tendencies,and when these forces decide by a stroke that we should no longer exist and that we are expendable or should be shifted to Perth,it’s my view that we go to the high growth area that affords us greater security of survival as a Sydney club as well as development.Turning our backs on Macarthur would be madness,and I tend to think the powers that be in our club are thinking along the same lines,given recent announcements.I don’t really understand your argument that our chairman “seems” to be ignoring all the developments of the inner west and to his detriment.

Not so. The bureau of statistics is old data, it’s not up to date. The growth out west is a myth. The real growth is happening in the inner city along the major corridors. The arterial roads, heavy rail and the Metro. The amount of development is unbelievable and it’s accelerating. The money is in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. Ignore it at your peril. 

“The growth out west is a myth”.Now that really really takes the cake Mike.If you don’t trust the bureau of stats,refer to the electoral commission where you can apply a more forensic approach to growth figures.

It is a myth, heaps of space being used but it is all low density dwellings. Sydney itself is being reformed into a vertical city. No point denying it. As I said the 1/4 block is being abandoned for high density high rise and this is the future.

Meanwhile we fart about, let’s go back to LO and the CSS, while the Roosters and Wabbits are introducing their corporate partners to great facilities at what will be the best ground for watching Rugby League. Guess who the money will go to, and it won’t be the Wests Tigers. As a club, sometimes we act brain dead. 


   
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Posted by: @mike
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Posted by: @mike
Posted by: @helmesy

I’m actually in Campbelltown today and each time I come here I really get the sense that it is separate to Sydney. The Macarthur region needs its own team but I think it’s only going to work if it’s a 100% commitment, not a Sydney club that swans in and out.

Do we really want to be that commuted? Is there a way of making this work when the COE is in Concord? I just don’t know.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Agree, it needs its own team. Not a half hearted attempt. That has failed before and will fail again.  

With the COE at Concord, Campbelltown is not our future full time.

The SFS, Stadium Australia or a purpose built stadium at Homebush are our best options at growing the brand, at both the fan and corporate level. Anything less and we are taking a backwards step (again). 

We need some forward thinking on this.

The growth out West is surpassed by the growth in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. They are not stagnant. The number of units going up is growing continuously, accelerating even and won’t stop anytime soon. Look up. The 1/4 acre blocks are going and making way for units upon units. This seems to be ignored by our chairman and it will be to his detriment if he continues to do so. 

I can’t argue with any of that Mike.

Sorry Mike,nothing personal,but I have to say your highly subjective arguments as to the growth of “the inner city and surrounding suburbs” surpassing outer west are not only seriously flawed,but just plain wrong.Go to the bureau of statistics,and also the electoral commission and you will find that the north west,and south west regions have the highest growth rates of Sydney.So if you’re talking of forward thinking,I think it probably beneficial to actually check the figures.Im not denying that there isn’t growth in inner western,north western Sydney but I will argue that Wests Tigers in this particular region has to share its footprint so I believe your argument as to growing a brand out of Homebush is a little flawed.Our territory is bordered by Eels and Dogs.Do we want to share footprint?

Rugby League is controlled now by corporate forces with corporate cut throat tendencies,and when these forces decide by a stroke that we should no longer exist and that we are expendable or should be shifted to Perth,it’s my view that we go to the high growth area that affords us greater security of survival as a Sydney club as well as development.Turning our backs on Macarthur would be madness,and I tend to think the powers that be in our club are thinking along the same lines,given recent announcements.I don’t really understand your argument that our chairman “seems” to be ignoring all the developments of the inner west and to his detriment.

Not so. The bureau of statistics is old data, it’s not up to date. The growth out west is a myth. The real growth is happening in the inner city along the major corridors. The arterial roads, heavy rail and the Metro. The amount of development is unbelievable and it’s accelerating. The money is in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. Ignore it at your peril. 

“The growth out west is a myth”.Now that really really takes the cake Mike.If you don’t trust the bureau of stats,refer to the electoral commission where you can apply a more forensic approach to growth figures.

It is a myth, heaps of space being used but it is all low density dwellings. Sydney itself is being reformed into a vertical city. No point denying it. As I said the 1/4 block is being abandoned for high density high rise and this is the future.

Meanwhile we fart about, let’s go back to LO and the CSS, while the Roosters and Wabbits are introducing their corporate partners to great facilities at what will be the best ground for watching Rugby League. Guess who the money will go to, and it won’t be the Wests Tigers. As a club, sometimes we act brain dead. 

Might as well stay at Parramatta than go to the SFS.

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Posted by: @mike
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I’m actually in Campbelltown today and each time I come here I really get the sense that it is separate to Sydney. The Macarthur region needs its own team but I think it’s only going to work if it’s a 100% commitment, not a Sydney club that swans in and out.

Do we really want to be that commuted? Is there a way of making this work when the COE is in Concord? I just don’t know.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Agree, it needs its own team. Not a half hearted attempt. That has failed before and will fail again.  

With the COE at Concord, Campbelltown is not our future full time.

The SFS, Stadium Australia or a purpose built stadium at Homebush are our best options at growing the brand, at both the fan and corporate level. Anything less and we are taking a backwards step (again). 

We need some forward thinking on this.

The growth out West is surpassed by the growth in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. They are not stagnant. The number of units going up is growing continuously, accelerating even and won’t stop anytime soon. Look up. The 1/4 acre blocks are going and making way for units upon units. This seems to be ignored by our chairman and it will be to his detriment if he continues to do so. 

I can’t argue with any of that Mike.

Sorry Mike,nothing personal,but I have to say your highly subjective arguments as to the growth of “the inner city and surrounding suburbs” surpassing outer west are not only seriously flawed,but just plain wrong.Go to the bureau of statistics,and also the electoral commission and you will find that the north west,and south west regions have the highest growth rates of Sydney.So if you’re talking of forward thinking,I think it probably beneficial to actually check the figures.Im not denying that there isn’t growth in inner western,north western Sydney but I will argue that Wests Tigers in this particular region has to share its footprint so I believe your argument as to growing a brand out of Homebush is a little flawed.Our territory is bordered by Eels and Dogs.Do we want to share footprint?

Rugby League is controlled now by corporate forces with corporate cut throat tendencies,and when these forces decide by a stroke that we should no longer exist and that we are expendable or should be shifted to Perth,it’s my view that we go to the high growth area that affords us greater security of survival as a Sydney club as well as development.Turning our backs on Macarthur would be madness,and I tend to think the powers that be in our club are thinking along the same lines,given recent announcements.I don’t really understand your argument that our chairman “seems” to be ignoring all the developments of the inner west and to his detriment.

Not so. The bureau of statistics is old data, it’s not up to date. The growth out west is a myth. The real growth is happening in the inner city along the major corridors. The arterial roads, heavy rail and the Metro. The amount of development is unbelievable and it’s accelerating. The money is in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. Ignore it at your peril. 

“The growth out west is a myth”.Now that really really takes the cake Mike.If you don’t trust the bureau of stats,refer to the electoral commission where you can apply a more forensic approach to growth figures.

It is a myth, heaps of space being used but it is all low density dwellings. Sydney itself is being reformed into a vertical city. No point denying it. As I said the 1/4 block is being abandoned for high density high rise and this is the future.

Meanwhile we fart about, let’s go back to LO and the CSS, while the Roosters and Wabbits are introducing their corporate partners to great facilities at what will be the best ground for watching Rugby League. Guess who the money will go to, and it won’t be the Wests Tigers. As a club, sometimes we act brain dead. 

Ok then Mike,you can fly in the face of the figures and state it a myth from your perspective,but even allowing for that l don’t really understand what concrete conclusions you are drawing,and what is your vision for the future of the WTs.Cheers mate


   
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I’m actually in Campbelltown today and each time I come here I really get the sense that it is separate to Sydney. The Macarthur region needs its own team but I think it’s only going to work if it’s a 100% commitment, not a Sydney club that swans in and out.

Do we really want to be that commuted? Is there a way of making this work when the COE is in Concord? I just don’t know.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Agree, it needs its own team. Not a half hearted attempt. That has failed before and will fail again.  

With the COE at Concord, Campbelltown is not our future full time.

The SFS, Stadium Australia or a purpose built stadium at Homebush are our best options at growing the brand, at both the fan and corporate level. Anything less and we are taking a backwards step (again). 

We need some forward thinking on this.

The growth out West is surpassed by the growth in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. They are not stagnant. The number of units going up is growing continuously, accelerating even and won’t stop anytime soon. Look up. The 1/4 acre blocks are going and making way for units upon units. This seems to be ignored by our chairman and it will be to his detriment if he continues to do so. 

I can’t argue with any of that Mike.

Sorry Mike,nothing personal,but I have to say your highly subjective arguments as to the growth of “the inner city and surrounding suburbs” surpassing outer west are not only seriously flawed,but just plain wrong.Go to the bureau of statistics,and also the electoral commission and you will find that the north west,and south west regions have the highest growth rates of Sydney.So if you’re talking of forward thinking,I think it probably beneficial to actually check the figures.Im not denying that there isn’t growth in inner western,north western Sydney but I will argue that Wests Tigers in this particular region has to share its footprint so I believe your argument as to growing a brand out of Homebush is a little flawed.Our territory is bordered by Eels and Dogs.Do we want to share footprint?

Rugby League is controlled now by corporate forces with corporate cut throat tendencies,and when these forces decide by a stroke that we should no longer exist and that we are expendable or should be shifted to Perth,it’s my view that we go to the high growth area that affords us greater security of survival as a Sydney club as well as development.Turning our backs on Macarthur would be madness,and I tend to think the powers that be in our club are thinking along the same lines,given recent announcements.I don’t really understand your argument that our chairman “seems” to be ignoring all the developments of the inner west and to his detriment.

Not so. The bureau of statistics is old data, it’s not up to date. The growth out west is a myth. The real growth is happening in the inner city along the major corridors. The arterial roads, heavy rail and the Metro. The amount of development is unbelievable and it’s accelerating. The money is in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. Ignore it at your peril. 

“The growth out west is a myth”.Now that really really takes the cake Mike.If you don’t trust the bureau of stats,refer to the electoral commission where you can apply a more forensic approach to growth figures.

It is a myth, heaps of space being used but it is all low density dwellings. Sydney itself is being reformed into a vertical city. No point denying it. As I said the 1/4 block is being abandoned for high density high rise and this is the future.

Meanwhile we fart about, let’s go back to LO and the CSS, while the Roosters and Wabbits are introducing their corporate partners to great facilities at what will be the best ground for watching Rugby League. Guess who the money will go to, and it won’t be the Wests Tigers. As a club, sometimes we act brain dead. 

Ok then Mike,you can fly in the face of the figures and state it a myth from your perspective,but even allowing for that l don’t really understand what concrete conclusions you are drawing,and what is your vision for the future of the WTs.Cheers mate

The future is the SFS or Stadium Australia (preferred) with the COE at Concord. That’s were we are. To ignore the growth that is happening in those areas for something mythical out west will not end well for the club. It doesn’t mean we can’t attract juniors from those areas but to base ourselves there believing that is our growth heartland is just plain wrong. 


   
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Posted by: @mike
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I’m actually in Campbelltown today and each time I come here I really get the sense that it is separate to Sydney. The Macarthur region needs its own team but I think it’s only going to work if it’s a 100% commitment, not a Sydney club that swans in and out.

Do we really want to be that commuted? Is there a way of making this work when the COE is in Concord? I just don’t know.

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Agree, it needs its own team. Not a half hearted attempt. That has failed before and will fail again.  

With the COE at Concord, Campbelltown is not our future full time.

The SFS, Stadium Australia or a purpose built stadium at Homebush are our best options at growing the brand, at both the fan and corporate level. Anything less and we are taking a backwards step (again). 

We need some forward thinking on this.

The growth out West is surpassed by the growth in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. They are not stagnant. The number of units going up is growing continuously, accelerating even and won’t stop anytime soon. Look up. The 1/4 acre blocks are going and making way for units upon units. This seems to be ignored by our chairman and it will be to his detriment if he continues to do so. 

I can’t argue with any of that Mike.

Sorry Mike,nothing personal,but I have to say your highly subjective arguments as to the growth of “the inner city and surrounding suburbs” surpassing outer west are not only seriously flawed,but just plain wrong.Go to the bureau of statistics,and also the electoral commission and you will find that the north west,and south west regions have the highest growth rates of Sydney.So if you’re talking of forward thinking,I think it probably beneficial to actually check the figures.Im not denying that there isn’t growth in inner western,north western Sydney but I will argue that Wests Tigers in this particular region has to share its footprint so I believe your argument as to growing a brand out of Homebush is a little flawed.Our territory is bordered by Eels and Dogs.Do we want to share footprint?

Rugby League is controlled now by corporate forces with corporate cut throat tendencies,and when these forces decide by a stroke that we should no longer exist and that we are expendable or should be shifted to Perth,it’s my view that we go to the high growth area that affords us greater security of survival as a Sydney club as well as development.Turning our backs on Macarthur would be madness,and I tend to think the powers that be in our club are thinking along the same lines,given recent announcements.I don’t really understand your argument that our chairman “seems” to be ignoring all the developments of the inner west and to his detriment.

Not so. The bureau of statistics is old data, it’s not up to date. The growth out west is a myth. The real growth is happening in the inner city along the major corridors. The arterial roads, heavy rail and the Metro. The amount of development is unbelievable and it’s accelerating. The money is in the inner city and surrounding suburbs. Ignore it at your peril. 

What Im hearing is an argument over two areas of high growth......now....gee....if only there was a club set up that could take advantage of BOTH of these opportunities....hmmmm.

 

Remind me again of the concrete benefit that ONE home ground would provide?

 


   
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What Im hearing is an argument over two areas of high growth......now....gee....if only there was a club set up that could take advantage of BOTH of these opportunities....hmmmm.

 

Remind me again of the concrete benefit that ONE home ground would provide?

 

Absolutely! Take advantage of the fact that we are in both areas! 

The South West is definitely growing, the amount of work that is going on is astonishing. It wasn't long ago that people were concerned that Souths and the Dogs were pushing into the area, we are already there and should capitalize on it.

I do not think that the SFS or Bankwest are good options for us. The SFS would alienate so many of our supporters and Bankwest is Parramatta stadium, no doubt about it. Corporates are important but I don't see how playing at the SFS would help

 


   
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