Seyfarth is so overrated by some sections of WT's fans .....
Agreed, he’s had some ok moments but a lot of the time he looks pretty average.
Have to disagree guys.. I think he’s exactly what we need in the team. Just had to be used correctly. Whether it be starting at lock or bench rotation. His season could be on the coaches back imo. After rd one I hope Maguire can read the game better.
I really think it’s a little premature to be running the line through players after one solitary game.Sure, we could’ve been better but in context, we really weren’t that bad.
Our roster has been compromised through injury so we are facing limitations.For the psychological benefit of this team we can’t afford to press the panic button by sacking players on debut.We need cool heads in adversity.Agree Logan,we have to use Seyfarth in the right manner,and Madge’s bench refinement is critical to our progress.We had a bench advantage against Melbourne and failed to utilise it.
I drew a line through Seyfarth the minute I saw him moving laterally ....since Day 1 ....he is too slow and gets even slower after 10 minutes of action ....he won't make it ....opposition sides will target him in the middle play after play after play .....the guy tries his butt off and has the exact attitude you need to make it ....but he won't make it as a NRL player
We may not agree but to me you pick your best players week in week out baring injury in an attempt to build match combinations to win games.. changing for the sake of changing is not an optimal direction as far as I'm concerned..
Yep. Brooks was one of our best players and maybe our best. Sure he isn't great and if we had a ready replacement I'd replace him but we need a ready replacement. Gildart looked good. He deserves more chances than that. I also couldn't tell that Gildart was at fault for the tries scored on that edge. Was Tuilagi at fault ? Was big Ken ? Was it Brooks ?
I think the same team will get picked. I'd have that hooker to the bench simply because it's asking too much of Simpkin to play big minutes. I thought that was SImpkins best game in the top grade. His service was good and his defense wasn't bad. He had no running game but I also didn't see poor passes at critical times to our halves.
Watch the replay of the 1st Melbourne try .....it's a 4 on 4 ...and Gildart decides to comes in off his man ......Gildart didn't once try and beat his opposition defender on the outside and his step inside was so predictable after the 2nd time he did ....
As long as no one over reacts..
if you're referring to my comments about Brooks it's his 9th season. He's not getting any better.
As for Gildart, I haven't written him off at all, but I think he needs some time to work on his defence in reserve grade. It wasn't necessarily his technique I just think he looked a bit clueless.
State Cup was woeful yesterday ..I'm all for giving a guys a chance but not for the sake of it just being someone different..these blokes need to be knocking down the door to be picked.. not one put their hand up.. T'oa was solid but that's it.
It's Brooks 8th season if you don't count that 1 game as a whole season.. he has his issues sure but is a far superior NRL player than Jock Madden at this present time..if Gildardt needs time to work on defence in reserve grade then Madden certainly does ..a no name Mounties team ran through him for 2 TRIES yesterday..he also provided zero direction for the team bar 1 good kick..he may well develop into a good 1st grader but as we have seen it's difficult to do that in 1st grade..these guys have played very little footy in the past 2 years
We may not agree but to me you pick your best players week in week out baring injury in an attempt to build match combinations to win games.. changing for the sake of changing is not an optimal direction as far as I'm concerned..
IMO this is the systemic issue that the club has with its players .. on the weekend as reported players were not motivated or particular interested in reserve grade.
My question is why ! What’s the issue or problems the players have in not turning up primed and ready , they are after all supposedly progressional players that in theory want to proceed to the next level …Is it the club that has this mediocre issue?
I'm hoping it's just the lack of football.. ..they had a dig so they are interested.. motivated..they where just woeful.. like at playing Rugby League..
Certainly weren't the progress scores I expected to hear. Ended up half respectable.
Seyfarth is so overrated by some sections of WT's fans .....
Agreed, he’s had some ok moments but a lot of the time he looks pretty average.
Have to disagree guys.. I think he’s exactly what we need in the team. Just had to be used correctly. Whether it be starting at lock or bench rotation. His season could be on the coaches back imo. After rd one I hope Maguire can read the game better.
I really think it’s a little premature to be running the line through players after one solitary game.Sure, we could’ve been better but in context, we really weren’t that bad.
Our roster has been compromised through injury so we are facing limitations.For the psychological benefit of this team we can’t afford to press the panic button by sacking players on debut.We need cool heads in adversity.Agree Logan,we have to use Seyfarth in the right manner,and Madge’s bench refinement is critical to our progress.We had a bench advantage against Melbourne and failed to utilise it.
I drew a line through Seyfarth the minute I saw him moving laterally ....since Day 1 ....he is too slow and gets even slower after 10 minutes of action ....he won't make it ....opposition sides will target him in the middle play after play after play .....the guy tries his butt off and has the exact attitude you need to make it ....but he won't make it as a NRL player
Seyfarth is a great front on defender with good enthusiasm and attitude but that’s it. He needs to add to his skill set.
We may not agree but to me you pick your best players week in week out baring injury in an attempt to build match combinations to win games.. changing for the sake of changing is not an optimal direction as far as I'm concerned..
Yep. Brooks was one of our best players and maybe our best. Sure he isn't great and if we had a ready replacement I'd replace him but we need a ready replacement. Gildart looked good. He deserves more chances than that. I also couldn't tell that Gildart was at fault for the tries scored on that edge. Was Tuilagi at fault ? Was big Ken ? Was it Brooks ?
I think the same team will get picked. I'd have that hooker to the bench simply because it's asking too much of Simpkin to play big minutes. I thought that was SImpkins best game in the top grade. His service was good and his defense wasn't bad. He had no running game but I also didn't see poor passes at critical times to our halves.
Watch the replay of the 1st Melbourne try .....it's a 4 on 4 ...and Gildart decides to comes in off his man ......Gildart didn't once try and beat his opposition defender on the outside and his step inside was so predictable after the 2nd time he did ....
I just rewatched this. I don't think Gildart's miss is that bad. The inside men aren't moving up and he takes the centre. The edge backrower moves outside and makes an extra man. Twal was the inside man along with Laurie and they both go for Papz.
Maybe a good defensive centre makes that play but it was well worked from Melbourne and Papz made the extra man by threatening the line.
Put it this way I think it's way too early to write Gildart off.
We may not agree but to me you pick your best players week in week out baring injury in an attempt to build match combinations to win games.. changing for the sake of changing is not an optimal direction as far as I'm concerned..
Yep. Brooks was one of our best players and maybe our best. Sure he isn't great and if we had a ready replacement I'd replace him but we need a ready replacement. Gildart looked good. He deserves more chances than that. I also couldn't tell that Gildart was at fault for the tries scored on that edge. Was Tuilagi at fault ? Was big Ken ? Was it Brooks ?
I think the same team will get picked. I'd have that hooker to the bench simply because it's asking too much of Simpkin to play big minutes. I thought that was SImpkins best game in the top grade. His service was good and his defense wasn't bad. He had no running game but I also didn't see poor passes at critical times to our halves.
Watch the replay of the 1st Melbourne try .....it's a 4 on 4 ...and Gildart decides to comes in off his man ......Gildart didn't once try and beat his opposition defender on the outside and his step inside was so predictable after the 2nd time he did ....
I just rewatched this. I don't think Gildart's miss is that bad. The inside men aren't moving up and he takes the centre. The edge backrower moves outside and makes an extra man. Twal was the inside man along with Laurie and they both go for Papz.
Maybe a good defensive centre makes that play but it was well worked from Melbourne and Papz made the extra man by threatening the line.
Put it this way I think it's way too early to write Gildart off.
If he can't at least try and get on the outside of his defender and keeps stepping inside he will be easy fodder for opposition backlines ...even if he starts trying to get on the outside and then turns big Kenny on the inside he makes opposition defences think twice .....
We may not agree but to me you pick your best players week in week out baring injury in an attempt to build match combinations to win games.. changing for the sake of changing is not an optimal direction as far as I'm concerned..
Yep. Brooks was one of our best players and maybe our best. Sure he isn't great and if we had a ready replacement I'd replace him but we need a ready replacement. Gildart looked good. He deserves more chances than that. I also couldn't tell that Gildart was at fault for the tries scored on that edge. Was Tuilagi at fault ? Was big Ken ? Was it Brooks ?
I think the same team will get picked. I'd have that hooker to the bench simply because it's asking too much of Simpkin to play big minutes. I thought that was SImpkins best game in the top grade. His service was good and his defense wasn't bad. He had no running game but I also didn't see poor passes at critical times to our halves.
Watch the replay of the 1st Melbourne try .....it's a 4 on 4 ...and Gildart decides to comes in off his man ......Gildart didn't once try and beat his opposition defender on the outside and his step inside was so predictable after the 2nd time he did ....
I just rewatched this. I don't think Gildart's miss is that bad. The inside men aren't moving up and he takes the centre. The edge backrower moves outside and makes an extra man. Twal was the inside man along with Laurie and they both go for Papz.
Maybe a good defensive centre makes that play but it was well worked from Melbourne and Papz made the extra man by threatening the line.
Put it this way I think it's way too early to write Gildart off.
The inside man is covered ...he needs to stay on his man it was a 4 on 4 ...just simply man up and drive the winger into touch ...simples
We may not agree but to me you pick your best players week in week out baring injury in an attempt to build match combinations to win games.. changing for the sake of changing is not an optimal direction as far as I'm concerned..
Yep. Brooks was one of our best players and maybe our best. Sure he isn't great and if we had a ready replacement I'd replace him but we need a ready replacement. Gildart looked good. He deserves more chances than that. I also couldn't tell that Gildart was at fault for the tries scored on that edge. Was Tuilagi at fault ? Was big Ken ? Was it Brooks ?
I think the same team will get picked. I'd have that hooker to the bench simply because it's asking too much of Simpkin to play big minutes. I thought that was SImpkins best game in the top grade. His service was good and his defense wasn't bad. He had no running game but I also didn't see poor passes at critical times to our halves.
Watch the replay of the 1st Melbourne try .....it's a 4 on 4 ...and Gildart decides to comes in off his man ......Gildart didn't once try and beat his opposition defender on the outside and his step inside was so predictable after the 2nd time he did ....
I just rewatched this. I don't think Gildart's miss is that bad. The inside men aren't moving up and he takes the centre. The edge backrower moves outside and makes an extra man. Twal was the inside man along with Laurie and they both go for Papz.
Maybe a good defensive centre makes that play but it was well worked from Melbourne and Papz made the extra man by threatening the line.
Put it this way I think it's way too early to write Gildart off.
Too right Earl,way too early.Olly looks lively and I was pleased to see our centres getting some decent ball.We displayed some really expansive and up tempo passages.Combinations and understanding will develop with game time.Absolutely ludicrous to be talking about sacking players for a defensive glitch one game in.
We may not agree but to me you pick your best players week in week out baring injury in an attempt to build match combinations to win games.. changing for the sake of changing is not an optimal direction as far as I'm concerned..
Yep. Brooks was one of our best players and maybe our best. Sure he isn't great and if we had a ready replacement I'd replace him but we need a ready replacement. Gildart looked good. He deserves more chances than that. I also couldn't tell that Gildart was at fault for the tries scored on that edge. Was Tuilagi at fault ? Was big Ken ? Was it Brooks ?
I think the same team will get picked. I'd have that hooker to the bench simply because it's asking too much of Simpkin to play big minutes. I thought that was SImpkins best game in the top grade. His service was good and his defense wasn't bad. He had no running game but I also didn't see poor passes at critical times to our halves.
Watch the replay of the 1st Melbourne try .....it's a 4 on 4 ...and Gildart decides to comes in off his man ......Gildart didn't once try and beat his opposition defender on the outside and his step inside was so predictable after the 2nd time he did ....
I just rewatched this. I don't think Gildart's miss is that bad. The inside men aren't moving up and he takes the centre. The edge backrower moves outside and makes an extra man. Twal was the inside man along with Laurie and they both go for Papz.
Maybe a good defensive centre makes that play but it was well worked from Melbourne and Papz made the extra man by threatening the line.
Put it this way I think it's way too early to write Gildart off.
Ne's no Nathan 'Renouf' Milone that's for sure..
We may not agree but to me you pick your best players week in week out baring injury in an attempt to build match combinations to win games.. changing for the sake of changing is not an optimal direction as far as I'm concerned..
Yep. Brooks was one of our best players and maybe our best. Sure he isn't great and if we had a ready replacement I'd replace him but we need a ready replacement. Gildart looked good. He deserves more chances than that. I also couldn't tell that Gildart was at fault for the tries scored on that edge. Was Tuilagi at fault ? Was big Ken ? Was it Brooks ?
I think the same team will get picked. I'd have that hooker to the bench simply because it's asking too much of Simpkin to play big minutes. I thought that was SImpkins best game in the top grade. His service was good and his defense wasn't bad. He had no running game but I also didn't see poor passes at critical times to our halves.
Watch the replay of the 1st Melbourne try .....it's a 4 on 4 ...and Gildart decides to comes in off his man ......Gildart didn't once try and beat his opposition defender on the outside and his step inside was so predictable after the 2nd time he did ....
I just rewatched this. I don't think Gildart's miss is that bad. The inside men aren't moving up and he takes the centre. The edge backrower moves outside and makes an extra man. Twal was the inside man along with Laurie and they both go for Papz.
Maybe a good defensive centre makes that play but it was well worked from Melbourne and Papz made the extra man by threatening the line.
Put it this way I think it's way too early to write Gildart off.
Ne's no Nathan 'Renouf' Milone that's for sure..
No HE's not
We may not agree but to me you pick your best players week in week out baring injury in an attempt to build match combinations to win games.. changing for the sake of changing is not an optimal direction as far as I'm concerned..
Yep. Brooks was one of our best players and maybe our best. Sure he isn't great and if we had a ready replacement I'd replace him but we need a ready replacement. Gildart looked good. He deserves more chances than that. I also couldn't tell that Gildart was at fault for the tries scored on that edge. Was Tuilagi at fault ? Was big Ken ? Was it Brooks ?
I think the same team will get picked. I'd have that hooker to the bench simply because it's asking too much of Simpkin to play big minutes. I thought that was SImpkins best game in the top grade. His service was good and his defense wasn't bad. He had no running game but I also didn't see poor passes at critical times to our halves.
Watch the replay of the 1st Melbourne try .....it's a 4 on 4 ...and Gildart decides to comes in off his man ......Gildart didn't once try and beat his opposition defender on the outside and his step inside was so predictable after the 2nd time he did ....
I just rewatched this. I don't think Gildart's miss is that bad. The inside men aren't moving up and he takes the centre. The edge backrower moves outside and makes an extra man. Twal was the inside man along with Laurie and they both go for Papz.
Maybe a good defensive centre makes that play but it was well worked from Melbourne and Papz made the extra man by threatening the line.
Put it this way I think it's way too early to write Gildart off.
Too right Earl,way too early.Olly looks lively and I was pleased to see our centres getting some decent ball.We displayed some really expansive and up tempo passages.Combinations and understanding will develop with game time.Absolutely ludicrous to be talking about sacking players for a defensive glitch one game in.
Don't recall mentioning to sack him .....but one dimensional attackers don't go far in the NRL ...especially ones who can't make good defensive reads
Maybe I'm losing the plot ...but I just noticed Liddle named in the 24 jersey .....anyone with ears close to the ground heard anything ....
Maybe I'm losing the plot ...but I just noticed Liddle named in the 24 jersey .....anyone with ears close to the ground heard anything ....
Nah just a typo error I’m hearing.. it’s Rua on the WT site.
But just on Simpkin and who replaces him during the game. I wouldn’t mind seeing Hastings going into dummy half. If it’s only just to get him touching the ball more. Peachey goes to 6
Maybe I'm losing the plot ...but I just noticed Liddle named in the 24 jersey .....anyone with ears close to the ground heard anything ....
No maybe about it.. lost it..probably check the actual Team thread v Newcastle in future
Maybe I'm losing the plot ...but I just noticed Liddle named in the 24 jersey .....anyone with ears close to the ground heard anything ....
No maybe about it.. lost it..probably check the actual Team thread v Newcastle in future
Yeah ok ...I've lost it ....10 years with you as a shadow will do that to any sane individual .....
