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Michael Maguire insists football boss Tim Sheens has his back at Wests Tigers

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I’ve always thought he looks like Guy smiley

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Just putting it out there ......Sheens really is in a lose /lose situation if he sacks Madge 


   
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@unhappy-tiger maybe the board sacks Madge.  No lose/lose there, they seem to get away with anything. Our board is lined with teflon, nothing sticks on them.


   
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Paul Kent has blasted the Wests Tigers for ignoring the fundamentals as pressure grows on Michael Maguire following the team’s worst start to a season in the club’s history.

The Tigers have lost their first five games of the season for the first time and despite Maguire and skipper James Tamou putting a positive spin on their dire predicament, Braith Anasta believes they can’t hide from the facts.

“This is Groundhog day after every game Madge and Tamou seem to be really positive, but the results aren’t a reflection of that so they have some work to do,” Anasta said on NRL 360.

“I don’t see how there could be any positivity at the moment. I think they have gone backwards. Madge has said they haven’t but I certainly do.”

Kent challenged the team to go back to the drawing board and work harder because what they are displaying on the weekend is not up to first grade standards.

“He is just putting out the message he wants his players to read to be honest,” Kent said.

“But the fact is they make some fundamental mistakes.

“The capacity for the Tigers to blow a try is astounding. The overlap and just a loose pass or the wingers overrun the ball.

“They have got this in-built system at the moment to just self-destruct.

“I don’t know how you fix it because I remember talking to Brad Fittler about confidence and playing well and which comes first.

“He said hard work comes first. It was a little bit cute, but it is spot on. You go away and you put in and pay attention to the detail.

“And the Tigers are just not paying attention to the detail in their game. They make these fundamental errors where you sit there and you think, this is not first grade quality football.

“Michael Maguire what can he do with these guys? What else can he impart on them?”

James Hooper believes Maguire will not be the coach of the team next season and is on borrowed time in 2022.

“We all like Madge, but the reality is if the losses continue to mount the way that they have, that he will not be there next year,” Hooper said.

“He certainly won’t be there next year and who knows how much longer he will remain in that position this year?

“In terms of the public spin that they are trying to put on it, I think it is delusional.

“It sounds like they have been drinking the Kool-Aid when they are trying to tell us that there are positives coming out of this dressing room at the moment.”

Phil Rothfield believes the Tigers will follow the lead of the Sharks from last season, who sacked John Morris before giving Craig Fitzgibbon the year to plan for the following season.

“I had a long chat to Tim Sheens last night and these are becoming a regular weekly chat about the situation,” Rothfield said.

“I think the Wests Tigers are now getting into a position like the Cronulla Sharks this time last year with John Morris.

“I think they need to make a call and then put a caretaker in and hire whatever the best coach is available and let him start working for next year.”

Rothfield revealed that from his chats with Sheens he believes the Tigers head of football is avoiding the tough decision to sack Maguire and move in a new direction.

“Tim Sheens is still trying to deflect his role in making a call on the coach and he is in a different role to Phil Gould at the Canterbury Bulldogs.

“Gus is the be all and end all and tells Trent (Barrett) when he can pick halfbacks and runs the entire program. He is on about $900,000.

“I think Sheens was bought by the Tigers not as a PR job, but to take a lot of pressure off the board. And he is on nowhere near the money that Gus is on.

“He has nowhere near the strength and power and decision making that Gus has got and I think he is reluctant to pull the pin.

“He is as rock solid and loyal as anyone I have met in rugby league. But he appears to me to be avoiding the hard decision.”

Kent noted the challenge for the Tigers is that there are only two coaching candidates who are not working elsewhere, so unless the Tigers want those two candidates they will have to bide their time.

“Anyone that is ready for the job or likely for the job is working elsewhere at the moment,” Kent said.

“The only two options you have got are Shane Flanagan and Paul Green.

“The usual suspects are all working. Cameron Ciraldo is working. They have all got jobs elsewhere except for Flanagan and Green.

“The assistants have all got smarter. There is no way someone with ambitions to be a career head coach is going to walk in halfway through this season and inherit what is happening there at the moment.”

Hooper revealed there have been reports linking Kristian Woolf to the Tigers post.

“There is a bit of mail around that Kristian Woolf, who is coaching over in the Super League,” Hooper said.

“He has won a couple of premierships.”

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Pretty insulting to suggest Sheens is only a PR appointment. I think its pretty clear Sheens runs the entire football side of the business. My questions is, does this extend to complete autonomy over decisions relating to the head coach?

I know Sheens led the review and was key in retaining Madge at the end of last year. He has also publicly backed Madge and we know Sheens is stubborn. I have heard Sheens say a number of times that the first year you observe, the second year you make changes and the third year you reap the benefits. My concern is that the damage done in year 1 could make achieving success impossible.  

Surely we are now at the stage where the board need to be asking further questions. The team is going backwards, individual players are going backwards. Maguire in his attempt to play error free Madge-ball without the troops to execute has stifled our attack and castrated the team

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Posted by: @eastiemagpie

@unhappy-tiger maybe the board sacks Madge.  No lose/lose there, they seem to get away with anything. Our board is lined with teflon, nothing sticks on them.

I imagine the board will consult with Sheens as he is football operations ....Teflon Tim will make the call ....the board will deliver the news 


   
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I’ve always thought he looks like Guy smiley

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Be nice if he was still an NRL quality prop .....


   
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