“We had a board meeting on (Monday) night and one of our directors passed a motion of confidence in me that was unanimously passed.
“That was humbling and I was overwhelmed by that.
“Internally, we know we have made a lot of positive changes (and) there is the core of a very good team there.
“We are not far away.”
the board have all held hands and jumped off the cliff together. Every major decision (sheens, Maguire, Benji, Fulton, brooks) has been signed off by the board. They are not a board of oversight they are amateurs playing fantasy football. Of course they are going to vote confidence in themselves. This is the governance rot that is the centre of our issues.
Correct. They’re all in it together to the bloody end now.
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@jedi-tiger sorry mate . But I don’t believe that narrative . I believe that there was an offer in place , Moses shopped around for ages , found the sea eagles . The tigers got whiff of this , put the ultimatum in place . The rest is history .
Just like 3 days isn’t enough to sign a long term contract , nor is it enough to ratify a 4 year deal for a player , most thought would be playing for Leeds if it wasn’t for the tigers .
As you know , I’m a brooks fan , but your narrative doesn’t pass the sniff test .
I believe the tigers offered him unders , but I also believe that there was no real interest from brooks/ Moses . Seriously . If he actually wanted to stay , he would have come at the tigers with the manly offer whenever he got it . And it wasn’t in the 3 days between that Thursday and Sunday .
especially if the tigers contract was so low .
Look all the best to him , but I think his story is bullshit . Much like I think the tigers version is horse shit as well .
Like I said the most obvious sequence is tigers made an offer , it wasn’t enough , he went to market found the manly deal . The tigers screwed the negotiations as usual with offering unders fluffing around with valuations , he never mentioned the manly deal , the tigers get on the scent , they put the ultimatum in, he leaves .
For sure the tigers are culpable with their piss weak evaluation , but as I said if brooks wanted to stay , he would have brought that manly deal to the tigers . But he didn’t because he doesn’t . And that’s ok .
@jedi-tiger if we don’t get fainu . I can seriously see a halves pairing of Galvin and Sezer. Apparently he’s like a man amongst boys in schoolboys .
Is that ideal . Hardly! But at least we would know there was +talent in there . Outside of career reserve graders .
@jedi-tiger the club has said the 2nd offer was an increased offer. Where are you getting it was a decreased offer from?
The original offer was below what had been discussed. The increased offer wasn’t an increase so much as it was what was previously discussed. But it came with a deadline.
as someone who works in recruitment, if I worked like that I’d be homeless.
@avocadoontoast ok but where does the manly offer come from . And why wasn’t it conveyed to the tigers ?
That’s why I’m not 100 💯 believing that story . I reckon Moses wanted his client out of the club . And if he couldn’t find a deal would go back . For them I think leaving was always plan A . No judgement from me . I think he won’t the lotto with that deal . And I hope he kills it .
The story doesn’t make sense to me though .
@jedi-tiger the club has said the 2nd offer was an increased offer. Where are you getting it was a decreased offer from?
The original offer was below what had been discussed. The increased offer wasn’t an increase so much as it was what was previously discussed. But it came with a deadline.
as someone who works in recruitment, if I worked like that I’d be homeless.
Thanks. That makes sense and is completely incompetent
@jedi-tiger the club has said the 2nd offer was an increased offer. Where are you getting it was a decreased offer from?
The original offer was below what had been discussed. The increased offer wasn’t an increase so much as it was what was previously discussed. But it came with a deadline.
as someone who works in recruitment, if I worked like that I’d be homeless.
Thanks. That makes sense and is completely incompetent
The incompetence is Luke Brooks at halfback for 10 years.
I'm totally on-board with hard-balling Brooks for his next deal, considering he was being paid very decent money over the previous 4 years (and before that), and he was clearly long-term searching for alternatives including engaging with the Knights in 2022.
No problems whatsoever putting deadlines on blokes who are giving indicators that they are stringing you along / heavily engaged with other parties and possibly using you as leverage on those parties.
Brooks has had one foot out the door for 12 months. The idea that he didn't know if he wanted to stay at Tigers / didn't have enough decision time is baloney. He deserved to be low-balled and out of the mouth of Lee H himself, he said Tigers were given indicators that the deal offered was good enough (regardless of whether it was the first or second attempt).
Avo says the first offer "was below was was discussed" and the second offer "wasn't an increase, but it was what was previously discussed".
So Moses says "Brooks wants X dollars" and Tigers offer Y. Moses comes back and says "no, X dollars is the price". So Tigers say... "OK ok X dollars, but you need to sign this week for that offer to remain valid"... and Moses says, "nope actually Brooks changed his mind, he's got a 4-year deal lined up with Manly".
Who is being disingenuous there? Obviously it never was X dollars in the first place, it was something else entirely, quite possibly play for leverage. Classic Isaac Moses too, can't trust any offers made to his clients being taken seriously. Just look at the Mitchell Moses bullshit saga, how long Tigers and Eels were raked over the coals to get a decision in writing.
@jirskyr only problem with your story is the club actually wanted to sign him. Avo’s story matches what Lee was saying the other day. Yes they were played by Isaac Moses however if that’s the way they are negotiating all deals it’s no wonder we aren’t signing anyone.
footnotes:
1. our opinions of whether Brooks should have been resigned are irrelevant here.
2. I obviously have no idea if this is how they are conducting all negotiations or if this example is an outlier
@jedi-tiger the club has said the 2nd offer was an increased offer. Where are you getting it was a decreased offer from?
The original offer was below what had been discussed. The increased offer wasn’t an increase so much as it was what was previously discussed. But it came with a deadline.
as someone who works in recruitment, if I worked like that I’d be homeless.
Thanks. That makes sense and is completely incompetent
The incompetence is Luke Brooks at halfback for 10 years.
I'm totally on-board with hard-balling Brooks for his next deal, considering he was being paid very decent money over the previous 4 years (and before that), and he was clearly long-term searching for alternatives including engaging with the Knights in 2022.
No problems whatsoever putting deadlines on blokes who are giving indicators that they are stringing you along / heavily engaged with other parties and possibly using you as leverage on those parties.
Brooks has had one foot out the door for 12 months. The idea that he didn't know if he wanted to stay at Tigers / didn't have enough decision time is baloney. He deserved to be low-balled and out of the mouth of Lee H himself, he said Tigers were given indicators that the deal offered was good enough (regardless of whether it was the first or second attempt).
Avo says the first offer "was below was was discussed" and the second offer "wasn't an increase, but it was what was previously discussed".
So Moses says "Brooks wants X dollars" and Tigers offer Y. Moses comes back and says "no, X dollars is the price". So Tigers say... "OK ok X dollars, but you need to sign this week for that offer to remain valid"... and Moses says, "nope actually Brooks changed his mind, he's got a 4-year deal lined up with Manly".
Who is being disingenuous there? Obviously it never was Y dollars in the first place, it was something else entirely, quite possibly play for leverage. Classic Isaac Moses too, can't trust any offers made to his clients being taken seriously. Just look at the Mitchell Moses bullshit saga, how long Tigers and Eels were raked over the coals to get a decision in writing.
yep..............so obviously the club would have a replacement lined up wouldnt they? Wouldnt they?
@jedi-tiger the club has said the 2nd offer was an increased offer. Where are you getting it was a decreased offer from?
The original offer was below what had been discussed. The increased offer wasn’t an increase so much as it was what was previously discussed. But it came with a deadline.
as someone who works in recruitment, if I worked like that I’d be homeless.
Thanks. That makes sense and is completely incompetent
The incompetence is Luke Brooks at halfback for 10 years.
I'm totally on-board with hard-balling Brooks for his next deal, considering he was being paid very decent money over the previous 4 years (and before that), and he was clearly long-term searching for alternatives including engaging with the Knights in 2022.
No problems whatsoever putting deadlines on blokes who are giving indicators that they are stringing you along / heavily engaged with other parties and possibly using you as leverage on those parties.
Brooks has had one foot out the door for 12 months. The idea that he didn't know if he wanted to stay at Tigers / didn't have enough decision time is baloney. He deserved to be low-balled and out of the mouth of Lee H himself, he said Tigers were given indicators that the deal offered was good enough (regardless of whether it was the first or second attempt).
Avo says the first offer "was below was was discussed" and the second offer "wasn't an increase, but it was what was previously discussed".
So Moses says "Brooks wants X dollars" and Tigers offer Y. Moses comes back and says "no, X dollars is the price". So Tigers say... "OK ok X dollars, but you need to sign this week for that offer to remain valid"... and Moses says, "nope actually Brooks changed his mind, he's got a 4-year deal lined up with Manly".
Who is being disingenuous there? Obviously it never was Y dollars in the first place, it was something else entirely, quite possibly play for leverage. Classic Isaac Moses too, can't trust any offers made to his clients being taken seriously. Just look at the Mitchell Moses bullshit saga, how long Tigers and Eels were raked over the coals to get a decision in writing.
yep..............so obviously the club would have a replacement lined up wouldnt they? Wouldnt they?
we have sezer lined up don't we ?
you couldn't make this planning on the run up could you.
@jedi-tiger the club has said the 2nd offer was an increased offer. Where are you getting it was a decreased offer from?
The original offer was below what had been discussed. The increased offer wasn’t an increase so much as it was what was previously discussed. But it came with a deadline.
as someone who works in recruitment, if I worked like that I’d be homeless.
Thanks. That makes sense and is completely incompetent
The incompetence is Luke Brooks at halfback for 10 years.
I'm totally on-board with hard-balling Brooks for his next deal, considering he was being paid very decent money over the previous 4 years (and before that), and he was clearly long-term searching for alternatives including engaging with the Knights in 2022.
No problems whatsoever putting deadlines on blokes who are giving indicators that they are stringing you along / heavily engaged with other parties and possibly using you as leverage on those parties.
Brooks has had one foot out the door for 12 months. The idea that he didn't know if he wanted to stay at Tigers / didn't have enough decision time is baloney. He deserved to be low-balled and out of the mouth of Lee H himself, he said Tigers were given indicators that the deal offered was good enough (regardless of whether it was the first or second attempt).
Avo says the first offer "was below was was discussed" and the second offer "wasn't an increase, but it was what was previously discussed".
So Moses says "Brooks wants X dollars" and Tigers offer Y. Moses comes back and says "no, X dollars is the price". So Tigers say... "OK ok X dollars, but you need to sign this week for that offer to remain valid"... and Moses says, "nope actually Brooks changed his mind, he's got a 4-year deal lined up with Manly".
Who is being disingenuous there? Obviously it never was Y dollars in the first place, it was something else entirely, quite possibly play for leverage. Classic Isaac Moses too, can't trust any offers made to his clients being taken seriously. Just look at the Mitchell Moses bullshit saga, how long Tigers and Eels were raked over the coals to get a decision in writing.
yep..............so obviously the club would have a replacement lined up wouldnt they? Wouldnt they?
we have sezer lined up don't we ?
you couldn't make this planning on the run up could you.
Im sure Pascoe & Lee have it all under control and are just waiting on Mario Tartak Scott Fultons next move.
@tiger5150 lol yep . And that’s why the circus remains the star attraction ….
I don’t blame brooks . Nor Moses .
I just see too many plot holes in their story around this .
And Sorry Jedi mate , I’m not emotionally attached to not say it .
By the way , the same holes are all through Lees story as well . Tigers story makes about much sense as Luke’s . That’s why I think it’s somewhere in the middle .
Luke wanted out , tigers wanted him to stay , and then decided to not only let brooks not know that , but to make him feel like it was a token contract . Only our bozos running the joint ….
@jedi-tiger well you could . And you’d get laughed at for how bad of an idea it was
yep..............so obviously the club would have a replacement lined up wouldnt they? Wouldnt they?
I think they wanted Brooks at a better price. They didn't want to be paying top dollar simply because there weren't many alternatives available.
Any update on the pending meeting with Simon Cook?
