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Really like to see a fulls traffic approach to the geographical issue.

 

Need to do more in the south West than just play more games there.

The youth academy is a good start.

We need to visually embed ourselves there 

The increases involvement in the Junior League will help as well.

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By splitting the games evenly you’re still confronted with the same old vexed question.Where is our home ground?I believe a line has to be drawn and Campbelltown declared home,then you can play with ratios for Leichhardt without dispensing with the Old Girl.Love Leichhardt but Macarthur and the south western corridor is where we have to consolidate for future survival.

Its not going to be quite as simple as that but I can see a situation where we are based in the Inner Wests but playing the majority of games out in the MacArthur. It doesn't quite get rid of our ambiguous identity but it does simplify it a little. It would then depend if the MacArthur is willing to accept a team that only visit on the weekend.

That’s correct Garry, while I understand the logic of this decision (if proves accurate), it just continues 40 plus years of dabbling in Campbelltown but not really jumping in.

HQ is in Concord, we should play at Homebush and be done with the whole thing.

Couldn’t agree anymore. Happy to go to the CSS and watch games but this is just lip service. HQ is concord so Homebush or the SFS is the logical choice for home grounds. It’s between these two. CSS & LO to have 1 game each for tradition and for the old timers like @Garry. 1 game at Tamworth and 1 for Magic Round. I can’t see CSS as the future, it’s a backwards step. 

I don't want the old grounds, so you are off the mark there. I want to play in an appropriate brand new Rugby League stadium that is inside our geographical areas.

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By splitting the games evenly you’re still confronted with the same old vexed question.Where is our home ground?I believe a line has to be drawn and Campbelltown declared home,then you can play with ratios for Leichhardt without dispensing with the Old Girl.Love Leichhardt but Macarthur and the south western corridor is where we have to consolidate for future survival.

Its not going to be quite as simple as that but I can see a situation where we are based in the Inner Wests but playing the majority of games out in the MacArthur. It doesn't quite get rid of our ambiguous identity but it does simplify it a little. It would then depend if the MacArthur is willing to accept a team that only visit on the weekend.

That’s correct Garry, while I understand the logic of this decision (if proves accurate), it just continues 40 plus years of dabbling in Campbelltown but not really jumping in.

HQ is in Concord, we should play at Homebush and be done with the whole thing.

Couldn’t agree anymore. Happy to go to the CSS and watch games but this is just lip service. HQ is concord so Homebush or the SFS is the logical choice for home grounds. It’s between these two. CSS & LO to have 1 game each for tradition and for the old timers like @Garry. 1 game at Tamworth and 1 for Magic Round. I can’t see CSS as the future, it’s a backwards step. 

I don't want the old grounds, so you are off the mark there. I want to play in an appropriate brand new Rugby League stadium that is inside our geographical areas.

I wonder if we do the two traditional grounds until a ground such as a new stadium at Homebush settles the argument.

Using LO or CS limits us to 20,000 spectators and will fill up fast if we get some success.

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My ultimate preference SFS but if that was ever going to happen it would have been from 2023 so it’s clearly a dead end. The club has made a call to invest in the south west (consolidating the Macaurthur and group6 until the wests tigers banner and building the Junior Academy) so I think this is the best compromise. For inner west supporters you get the same amount of games and Leichhardt that you do today and we claim our position as the club of the south west which reduces the risk we get rationalised out of the Sydney market in the future. If the labor party ever gets back into power in NSW then maybe we can lobby for them to rebuild CSS and we are laughing


   
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Crowds at css haven’t been overly strong. A new stadium probably won’t change that. I think the more games at Leichhardt the better*

* I love Leichhardt and am very biased.


   
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Crowds at css haven’t been overly strong. A new stadium probably won’t change that. I think the more games at Leichhardt the better*

* I love Leichhardt and am very biased.

I love LO as well, but it is very close to not being up to standard for a professional sporting team.

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@mike When the economic rationalist NRL board members of the future  come knocking and tell you that your rightful place is not Concord but Perth,perhaps you might feel a little differently.Decisions are made by entities that have absolute zero affinity with traditions,culture,or the origins of rugby league.Our ultimate survival is  to have a legitimate footprint that isn’t shared with other clubs and while subjectively I might prefer Leichhardt and inner west,for survival I have to err on the South Western corridor.I completely understand your interpretation of Concord being the epicentre given the COE etc..but future powers that be may interpret way differently.


   
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By splitting the games evenly you’re still confronted with the same old vexed question.Where is our home ground?I believe a line has to be drawn and Campbelltown declared home,then you can play with ratios for Leichhardt without dispensing with the Old Girl.Love Leichhardt but Macarthur and the south western corridor is where we have to consolidate for future survival.

Its not going to be quite as simple as that but I can see a situation where we are based in the Inner Wests but playing the majority of games out in the MacArthur. It doesn't quite get rid of our ambiguous identity but it does simplify it a little. It would then depend if the MacArthur is willing to accept a team that only visit on the weekend.

That’s correct Garry, while I understand the logic of this decision (if proves accurate), it just continues 40 plus years of dabbling in Campbelltown but not really jumping in.

HQ is in Concord, we should play at Homebush and be done with the whole thing.

Couldn’t agree anymore. Happy to go to the CSS and watch games but this is just lip service. HQ is concord so Homebush or the SFS is the logical choice for home grounds. It’s between these two. CSS & LO to have 1 game each for tradition and for the old timers like @Garry. 1 game at Tamworth and 1 for Magic Round. I can’t see CSS as the future, it’s a backwards step. 

I don't want the old grounds, so you are off the mark there. I want to play in an appropriate brand new Rugby League stadium that is inside our geographical areas.

I wonder if we do the two traditional grounds until a ground such as a new stadium at Homebush settles the argument.

Using LO or CS limits us to 20,000 spectators and will fill up fast if we get some success.

That’s one of my major issues. We will need a ground with the capacity of at least the SFS size 45K in the not to distant future. Anything less and we are limiting/hobbling ourselves. A 20k, 25K or 30K stadium just won’t cut in the future. 

We seem to planning for crowds as they are now rather than future crowd expansion. It’s rather short sighted. 


   
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Posted by: @tiger-symmetry

@mike When the economic rationalist NRL board members of the future  come knocking and tell you that your rightful place is not Concord but Perth,perhaps you might feel a little differently.Decisions are made by entities that have absolute zero affinity with traditions,culture,or the origins of rugby league.Our ultimate survival is  to have a legitimate footprint that isn’t shared with other clubs and while subjectively I might prefer Leichhardt and inner west,for survival I have to err on the South Western corridor.I completely understand your interpretation of Concord being the epicentre given the COE etc..but future powers that be may interpret way differently.

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@mike When the economic rationalist NRL board members of the future  come knocking and tell you that your rightful place is not Concord but Perth,perhaps you might feel a little differently.Decisions are made by entities that have absolute zero affinity with traditions,culture,or the origins of rugby league.Our ultimate survival is  to have a legitimate footprint that isn’t shared with other clubs and while subjectively I might prefer Leichhardt and inner west,for survival I have to err on the South Western corridor.I completely understand your interpretation of Concord being the epicentre given the COE etc..but future powers that be may interpret way differently.

I’ll be long gone by the time that ever happens.

The western corridor is a myth. The amount of units going up in Sydney and the inner suburbs trounces anything happening out West. 


   
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Posted by: @mike
Posted by: @helmesy
Posted by: @garry
Posted by: @tiger-symmetry

By splitting the games evenly you’re still confronted with the same old vexed question.Where is our home ground?I believe a line has to be drawn and Campbelltown declared home,then you can play with ratios for Leichhardt without dispensing with the Old Girl.Love Leichhardt but Macarthur and the south western corridor is where we have to consolidate for future survival.

Its not going to be quite as simple as that but I can see a situation where we are based in the Inner Wests but playing the majority of games out in the MacArthur. It doesn't quite get rid of our ambiguous identity but it does simplify it a little. It would then depend if the MacArthur is willing to accept a team that only visit on the weekend.

That’s correct Garry, while I understand the logic of this decision (if proves accurate), it just continues 40 plus years of dabbling in Campbelltown but not really jumping in.

HQ is in Concord, we should play at Homebush and be done with the whole thing.

Couldn’t agree anymore. Happy to go to the CSS and watch games but this is just lip service. HQ is concord so Homebush or the SFS is the logical choice for home grounds. It’s between these two. CSS & LO to have 1 game each for tradition and for the old timers like @Garry. 1 game at Tamworth and 1 for Magic Round. I can’t see CSS as the future, it’s a backwards step. 

I don't want the old grounds, so you are off the mark there. I want to play in an appropriate brand new Rugby League stadium that is inside our geographical areas.

I wonder if we do the two traditional grounds until a ground such as a new stadium at Homebush settles the argument.

Using LO or CS limits us to 20,000 spectators and will fill up fast if we get some success.

That’s one of my major issues. We will need a ground with the capacity of at least the SFS size 45K in the not to distant future. Anything less and we are limiting/hobbling ourselves. A 20k, 25K or 30K stadium just won’t cut in the future. 

We seem to planning for crowds as they are now rather than future crowd expansion. It’s rather short sighted. 

What makes you think our crowds are going to at least double in the near future?

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On the pod last week it was asked if you'd still support WT if they moved to Perth.

As a supporter who live sin Melbourne and doesn't get to live games, it wouldn't change my direct relationship to my experience with the club, as I'm still watching the team 100% on TV and engaging with club and supporters 100% online.

Bit a club is something more than just a team franchise- it has a soul. WT as a club has still struggled to find and harness our soul- even though we have one of the most committed supporters in the league.

Grounding ourselves in the west feels right. We need to show we have a soul - otherwise we'll be treated like a franchise and franchises are easy to.move around.

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@frullens Like your sentiments Frullens,franchises are fodder and treated accordingly.Well said.


   
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I like the idea of a split with more being played at CSS if they give it a revamp. That area is growing massively but we still need to look after the inner west as we have a lot of home grown talent come from there. 

From a whole game perspective, I think every team should be doing what we do with Tamworth. Pick a country town and take at least 1 home game there. 


   
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I like the idea of a split with more being played at CSS if they give it a revamp. That area is growing massively but we still need to look after the inner west as we have a lot of home grown talent come from there. 

From a whole game perspective, I think every team should be doing what we do with Tamworth. Pick a country town and take at least 1 home game there. 

Sydney and the Inner City and surrounding suburbs are also growing massively, just vertically not horizontally. 


   
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