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Would be a good atmosphere though Garry with 30,000

Yes it starts to improve from 30K

You, Mike and I will be there…just need the other 29,997 people!

I like sitting with Mike at the footy, don't know if he likes sitting with me though lol

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@garry and @mike

Good discussion. 

The issue is there's no perfect solution at this stage,  and depending on what you prioritise you land at different conclusions. 

To best answer this from a club perspective- they need an overarching vision for the club,  which then guides these major decision.

What does the club want to prioritise?

- junior development and connection to Macarthur nursery?

- biggest crowds for when we are winning?

- fan and corporate experience?

- history?

- the future?

Are we a western Sydney club?

Are we a whole of Sydney club?

Where is our base or our heart?

 

We need to answer these first - then the answer to the stadium question will become more apparent

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Posted by: @helmesy

Would be a good atmosphere though Garry with 30,000

Meh....I was there a few years ago for a Parra Easter Monday game and there was more than that there. It didnt really feel full or much of an atmosphere.

 

It was the first game of RL my partner came to watch (she is from Eastern Europe) and we had one of her mates here on holidays. They enjoyed the game but when I took her to LO a few weeks later, there was less than half the crowd there and she LOVED it and and it was a great atmosphere.

 

 

 


   
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@garry and @mike

Good discussion. 

The issue is there's no perfect solution at this stage,  and depending on what you prioritise you land at different conclusions. 

To best answer this from a club perspective- they need an overarching vision for the club,  which then guides these major decision.

What does the club want to prioritise?

- junior development and connection to Macarthur nursery?

- biggest crowds for when we are winning?

- fan and corporate experience?

- history?

- the future?

Are we a western Sydney club?

Are we a whole of Sydney club?

Where is our base or our heart?

 

We need to answer these first - then the answer to the stadium question will become more apparent

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Would be a good atmosphere though Garry with 30,000

Meh....I was there a few years ago for a Parra Easter Monday game and there was more than that there. It didnt really feel full or much of an atmosphere.

 

It was the first game of RL my partner came to watch (she is from Eastern Europe) and we had one of her mates here on holidays. They enjoyed the game but when I took her to LO a few weeks later, there was less than half the crowd there and she LOVED it and and it was a great atmosphere.

 

 

 

Did we get flogged?

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Would be a good atmosphere though Garry with 30,000

Meh....I was there a few years ago for a Parra Easter Monday game and there was more than that there. It didnt really feel full or much of an atmosphere.

 

It was the first game of RL my partner came to watch (she is from Eastern Europe) and we had one of her mates here on holidays. They enjoyed the game but when I took her to LO a few weeks later, there was less than half the crowd there and she LOVED it and and it was a great atmosphere.

 

 

 

Did we get flogged?

Has anyone been at bankwest at capacity?

I'd imagine the atmosphere is pretty good?

Is it just because we seem to get flogged there that people don't like it?

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Would be a good atmosphere though Garry with 30,000

Meh....I was there a few years ago for a Parra Easter Monday game and there was more than that there. It didnt really feel full or much of an atmosphere.

 

It was the first game of RL my partner came to watch (she is from Eastern Europe) and we had one of her mates here on holidays. They enjoyed the game but when I took her to LO a few weeks later, there was less than half the crowd there and she LOVED it and and it was a great atmosphere.

 

 

 

Did we get flogged?

Has anyone been at bankwest at capacity?

I'd imagine the atmosphere is pretty good?

Is it just because we seem to get flogged there that people don't like it?

Atmosphere is pretty good when we are winning.

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Posted by: @garry
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Would be a good atmosphere though Garry with 30,000

Meh....I was there a few years ago for a Parra Easter Monday game and there was more than that there. It didnt really feel full or much of an atmosphere.

 

It was the first game of RL my partner came to watch (she is from Eastern Europe) and we had one of her mates here on holidays. They enjoyed the game but when I took her to LO a few weeks later, there was less than half the crowd there and she LOVED it and and it was a great atmosphere.

 

 

 

Did we get flogged?

No we won that game

 


   
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Would be a good atmosphere though Garry with 30,000

Meh....I was there a few years ago for a Parra Easter Monday game and there was more than that there. It didnt really feel full or much of an atmosphere.

 

It was the first game of RL my partner came to watch (she is from Eastern Europe) and we had one of her mates here on holidays. They enjoyed the game but when I took her to LO a few weeks later, there was less than half the crowd there and she LOVED it and and it was a great atmosphere.

 

 

 

Did we get flogged?

Has anyone been at bankwest at capacity?

I'd imagine the atmosphere is pretty good?

Is it just because we seem to get flogged there that people don't like it?

Atmosphere is pretty good when we are winning.

Like I said before - if we are in the top 4 and playing majority of games at WSS

and parra in the bottom 4 

It would feel like our stadium not parrras.

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I look at it this way. I haven't taken anyone to the football since we stopped playing out of Stadium Australia. LO and CSS are really sub par. LO is like a third world country ground and CSS is only slightly better. They are both not suitable in the 21st century and just not acceptable for a new generation of fans (not fans that have been brought up in a Rugby League household). Assume none of the grounds (LO or CSS) will be upgraded (and I don't believe they ever will) and Liverpool is not built (I don't believe it ever will either). Which ground do you prefer? I cannot support Parramatta Stadium, besides the location its not built for fans. That leaves the SFS or Stadium Australia. My preference at the moment is Stadium Australia but I am really looking forward to checking out the new SFS. Given the limitation criteria (no new stadium or upgrades) which ground would people really prefer the new SFS or Stadium Australia?

WSS

So you’d prefer to sit in the sun all day, all presentations and entertainment with their back to you at Parramatta Stadium. OK. 

Over Stadium Australia and the SFS yes. They are not appropriate choices.

They are very appropriate choices and really the only feasible two. 

80000 seats for a side that averages around 17000 is not appropriate, maybe if we were averaging around 50000-60000, that point can not be argued. The other feasible option is outside our catchment areas and a long way away from one of our traditional areas. Wests Bondi Tigers. We are not an inner city club as much as you want us to be.

All nonsense @garry. Stadium Australia is fine. I’ve heard a dozen fanatics behind the goal post fill that stadium with atmosphere. If it’s not happening it’s the fans, not the stadium.

It’s also a rubbish argument about the SFS location, it’s not at Bondi and you know it. It’s located at the major sporting and entertainment precinct of SYDNEY. Wests Ashfield and the COE are closer to it than Parramatta Stadium. The COE is 15.7km from Parramatta Stadium but only 11km to the SFS. Wests Ashfield is 24km to Parramatta Stadium but it is only 8km to the SFS.  

No mention of the MacArthur?

 

!7k in an 80k stadium makes our sport look like a joke. look like it is a sport no one cares about. Why do you think the broadcasters don't want it to be used.

 

No mention of MacArthur because CSS will not be upgraded. 

Stadium Australia is not a joke, it works fine. The media would have us playing every game out of LO if they could because it looks great on TV. Too bad it has sub-standard facilities for those attending the ground. If TV is all you care about them LO would be it, but it’s not so move on from the media argument.

I'm not talking about CSS, you went through the distances to each of the stadiums but didn't include distances for the MacArthur region, almost like it doesn't matter?

From the MacArthur region, because of the overall distance needed to travel, the difference between going to Parramatta Stadium or going to the SFS is a very small percentage of the overall travelling time. Doesn’t matter if by public transport or driving, the kilometres difference between the two sites has only a small effect on the overall time taken from MacArthur.

Same if I am going to the CSS, doesn’t really matter if I start in the CBD or say from the COE. Because of the overall distance needed to travel, the difference in time taken is a small percentage. 


   
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We will no doubt be talking about this topic in twenty years time and with no resolution unless the club has a leader who is prepared to put their neck on the line and make a tough call. Any decision will come with a call for their head. As a supporter of the club, I will watch the team at any ground but I do appreciate comfort. LO and CSS are substandard, WSS  just feels wrong, so for me Homebush is the default option. 


   
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We will no doubt be talking about this topic in twenty years time and with no resolution unless the club has a leader who is prepared to put their neck on the line and make a tough call. Any decision will come with a call for their head. As a supporter of the club, I will watch the team at any ground but I do appreciate comfort. LO and CSS are substandard, WSS  just feels wrong, so for me Homebush is the default option. 

It seems like the decision is about to be made.

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This will never end..Fans as a whole can not agree one way or the other..it's bordering on the Great Brooks debate..

Whatever decision the Club makes (this will be a Board decision just remember)..it will be wrong..

Mark my words

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I would have been happier with Stadium Australia if it got the upgrade it was supposed to receive. 

Might still happen, ultimately they are going to have to do something with it. 

They can’t just let it crumble away.


   
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I would have been happier with Stadium Australia if it got the upgrade it was supposed to receive. 

Might still happen, ultimately they are going to have to do something with it. 

They can’t just let it crumble away.

I doubt the $800m refurb ever gets done, it needs significant modification, if not a complete rebuild in my opinion.

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