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I look at it this way. I haven't taken anyone to the football since we stopped playing out of Stadium Australia. LO and CSS are really sub par. LO is like a third world country ground and CSS is only slightly better. They are both not suitable in the 21st century and just not acceptable for a new generation of fans (not fans that have been brought up in a Rugby League household). Assume none of the grounds (LO or CSS) will be upgraded (and I don't believe they ever will) and Liverpool is not built (I don't believe it ever will either). Which ground do you prefer? I cannot support Parramatta Stadium, besides the location its not built for fans. That leaves the SFS or Stadium Australia. My preference at the moment is Stadium Australia but I am really looking forward to checking out the new SFS. Given the limitation criteria (no new stadium or upgrades) which ground would people really prefer the new SFS or Stadium Australia?

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So you’d prefer to sit in the sun all day, all presentations and entertainment with their back to you at Parramatta Stadium. OK. 

Over Stadium Australia and the SFS yes. They are not appropriate choices.

They are very appropriate choices and really the only feasible two. 


   
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I look at it this way. I haven't taken anyone to the football since we stopped playing out of Stadium Australia. LO and CSS are really sub par. LO is like a third world country ground and CSS is only slightly better. They are both not suitable in the 21st century and just not acceptable for a new generation of fans (not fans that have been brought up in a Rugby League household). Assume none of the grounds (LO or CSS) will be upgraded (and I don't believe they ever will) and Liverpool is not built (I don't believe it ever will either). Which ground do you prefer? I cannot support Parramatta Stadium, besides the location its not built for fans. That leaves the SFS or Stadium Australia. My preference at the moment is Stadium Australia but I am really looking forward to checking out the new SFS. Given the limitation criteria (no new stadium or upgrades) which ground would people really prefer the new SFS or Stadium Australia?

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So you’d prefer to sit in the sun all day, all presentations and entertainment with their back to you at Parramatta Stadium. OK. 

Over Stadium Australia and the SFS yes. They are not appropriate choices.

They are very appropriate choices and really the only feasible two. 

80000 seats for a side that averages around 17000 is not appropriate, maybe if we were averaging around 50000-60000, that point can not be argued. The other feasible option is outside our catchment areas and a long way away from one of our traditional areas. Wests Bondi Tigers. We are not an inner city club as much as you want us to be.

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I look at it this way. I haven't taken anyone to the football since we stopped playing out of Stadium Australia. LO and CSS are really sub par. LO is like a third world country ground and CSS is only slightly better. They are both not suitable in the 21st century and just not acceptable for a new generation of fans (not fans that have been brought up in a Rugby League household). Assume none of the grounds (LO or CSS) will be upgraded (and I don't believe they ever will) and Liverpool is not built (I don't believe it ever will either). Which ground do you prefer? I cannot support Parramatta Stadium, besides the location its not built for fans. That leaves the SFS or Stadium Australia. My preference at the moment is Stadium Australia but I am really looking forward to checking out the new SFS. Given the limitation criteria (no new stadium or upgrades) which ground would people really prefer the new SFS or Stadium Australia?

WSS

So you’d prefer to sit in the sun all day, all presentations and entertainment with their back to you at Parramatta Stadium. OK. 

Over Stadium Australia and the SFS yes. They are not appropriate choices.

They are very appropriate choices and really the only feasible two. 

I’m not advocating for it for us, however I reckon the new SFS is going to be pretty awesome.

If we’re a premier club we need to be playing on the big stage and with the best facilities. 

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I look at it this way. I haven't taken anyone to the football since we stopped playing out of Stadium Australia. LO and CSS are really sub par. LO is like a third world country ground and CSS is only slightly better. They are both not suitable in the 21st century and just not acceptable for a new generation of fans (not fans that have been brought up in a Rugby League household). Assume none of the grounds (LO or CSS) will be upgraded (and I don't believe they ever will) and Liverpool is not built (I don't believe it ever will either). Which ground do you prefer? I cannot support Parramatta Stadium, besides the location its not built for fans. That leaves the SFS or Stadium Australia. My preference at the moment is Stadium Australia but I am really looking forward to checking out the new SFS. Given the limitation criteria (no new stadium or upgrades) which ground would people really prefer the new SFS or Stadium Australia?

WSS

So you’d prefer to sit in the sun all day, all presentations and entertainment with their back to you at Parramatta Stadium. OK. 

Over Stadium Australia and the SFS yes. They are not appropriate choices.

They are very appropriate choices and really the only feasible two. 

80000 seats for a side that averages around 17000 is not appropriate, maybe if we were averaging around 50000-60000, that point can not be argued. The other feasible option is outside our catchment areas and a long way away from one of our traditional areas. Wests Bondi Tigers. We are not an inner city club as much as you want us to be.

All nonsense @garry. Stadium Australia is fine. I’ve heard a dozen fanatics behind the goal post fill that stadium with atmosphere. If it’s not happening it’s the fans, not the stadium.

It’s also a rubbish argument about the SFS location, it’s not at Bondi and you know it. It’s located at the major sporting and entertainment precinct of SYDNEY. Wests Ashfield and the COE are closer to it than Parramatta Stadium. The COE is 15.7km from Parramatta Stadium but only 11km to the SFS. Wests Ashfield is 24km to Parramatta Stadium but it is only 8km to the SFS.  


   
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I look at it this way. I haven't taken anyone to the football since we stopped playing out of Stadium Australia. LO and CSS are really sub par. LO is like a third world country ground and CSS is only slightly better. They are both not suitable in the 21st century and just not acceptable for a new generation of fans (not fans that have been brought up in a Rugby League household). Assume none of the grounds (LO or CSS) will be upgraded (and I don't believe they ever will) and Liverpool is not built (I don't believe it ever will either). Which ground do you prefer? I cannot support Parramatta Stadium, besides the location its not built for fans. That leaves the SFS or Stadium Australia. My preference at the moment is Stadium Australia but I am really looking forward to checking out the new SFS. Given the limitation criteria (no new stadium or upgrades) which ground would people really prefer the new SFS or Stadium Australia?

WSS

So you’d prefer to sit in the sun all day, all presentations and entertainment with their back to you at Parramatta Stadium. OK. 

Over Stadium Australia and the SFS yes. They are not appropriate choices.

They are very appropriate choices and really the only feasible two. 

80000 seats for a side that averages around 17000 is not appropriate, maybe if we were averaging around 50000-60000, that point can not be argued. The other feasible option is outside our catchment areas and a long way away from one of our traditional areas. Wests Bondi Tigers. We are not an inner city club as much as you want us to be.

All nonsense @garry. Stadium Australia is fine. I’ve heard a dozen fanatics behind the goal post fill that stadium with atmosphere. If it’s not happening it’s the fans, not the stadium.

It’s also a rubbish argument about the SFS location, it’s not at Bondi and you know it. It’s located at the major sporting and entertainment precinct of SYDNEY. Wests Ashfield and the COE are closer to it than Parramatta Stadium. The COE is 15.7km from Parramatta Stadium but only 11km to the SFS. Wests Ashfield is 24km to Parramatta Stadium but it is only 8km to the SFS.  

No mention of the MacArthur?

 

17k in an 80k stadium makes our sport look like a joke. look like it is a sport no one cares about. Why do you think the broadcasters don't want it to be used.

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I look at it this way. I haven't taken anyone to the football since we stopped playing out of Stadium Australia. LO and CSS are really sub par. LO is like a third world country ground and CSS is only slightly better. They are both not suitable in the 21st century and just not acceptable for a new generation of fans (not fans that have been brought up in a Rugby League household). Assume none of the grounds (LO or CSS) will be upgraded (and I don't believe they ever will) and Liverpool is not built (I don't believe it ever will either). Which ground do you prefer? I cannot support Parramatta Stadium, besides the location its not built for fans. That leaves the SFS or Stadium Australia. My preference at the moment is Stadium Australia but I am really looking forward to checking out the new SFS. Given the limitation criteria (no new stadium or upgrades) which ground would people really prefer the new SFS or Stadium Australia?

WSS

So you’d prefer to sit in the sun all day, all presentations and entertainment with their back to you at Parramatta Stadium. OK. 

Over Stadium Australia and the SFS yes. They are not appropriate choices.

They are very appropriate choices and really the only feasible two. 

80000 seats for a side that averages around 17000 is not appropriate, maybe if we were averaging around 50000-60000, that point can not be argued. The other feasible option is outside our catchment areas and a long way away from one of our traditional areas. Wests Bondi Tigers. We are not an inner city club as much as you want us to be.

All nonsense @garry. Stadium Australia is fine. I’ve heard a dozen fanatics behind the goal post fill that stadium with atmosphere. If it’s not happening it’s the fans, not the stadium.

It’s also a rubbish argument about the SFS location, it’s not at Bondi and you know it. It’s located at the major sporting and entertainment precinct of SYDNEY. Wests Ashfield and the COE are closer to it than Parramatta Stadium. The COE is 15.7km from Parramatta Stadium but only 11km to the SFS. Wests Ashfield is 24km to Parramatta Stadium but it is only 8km to the SFS.  

No mention of the MacArthur?

 

!7k in an 80k stadium makes our sport look like a joke. look like it is a sport no one cares about. Why do you think the broadcasters don't want it to be used.

 

No mention of MacArthur because CSS will not be upgraded. 

Stadium Australia is not a joke, it works fine. The media would have us playing every game out of LO if they could because it looks great on TV. Too bad it has sub-standard facilities for those attending the ground. If TV is all you care about them LO would be it, but it’s not so move on from the media argument.


   
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I look at it this way. I haven't taken anyone to the football since we stopped playing out of Stadium Australia. LO and CSS are really sub par. LO is like a third world country ground and CSS is only slightly better. They are both not suitable in the 21st century and just not acceptable for a new generation of fans (not fans that have been brought up in a Rugby League household). Assume none of the grounds (LO or CSS) will be upgraded (and I don't believe they ever will) and Liverpool is not built (I don't believe it ever will either). Which ground do you prefer? I cannot support Parramatta Stadium, besides the location its not built for fans. That leaves the SFS or Stadium Australia. My preference at the moment is Stadium Australia but I am really looking forward to checking out the new SFS. Given the limitation criteria (no new stadium or upgrades) which ground would people really prefer the new SFS or Stadium Australia?

WSS

So you’d prefer to sit in the sun all day, all presentations and entertainment with their back to you at Parramatta Stadium. OK. 

Over Stadium Australia and the SFS yes. They are not appropriate choices.

They are very appropriate choices and really the only feasible two. 

80000 seats for a side that averages around 17000 is not appropriate, maybe if we were averaging around 50000-60000, that point can not be argued. The other feasible option is outside our catchment areas and a long way away from one of our traditional areas. Wests Bondi Tigers. We are not an inner city club as much as you want us to be.

All nonsense @garry. Stadium Australia is fine. I’ve heard a dozen fanatics behind the goal post fill that stadium with atmosphere. If it’s not happening it’s the fans, not the stadium.

It’s also a rubbish argument about the SFS location, it’s not at Bondi and you know it. It’s located at the major sporting and entertainment precinct of SYDNEY. Wests Ashfield and the COE are closer to it than Parramatta Stadium. The COE is 15.7km from Parramatta Stadium but only 11km to the SFS. Wests Ashfield is 24km to Parramatta Stadium but it is only 8km to the SFS.  

No mention of the MacArthur?

 

!7k in an 80k stadium makes our sport look like a joke. look like it is a sport no one cares about. Why do you think the broadcasters don't want it to be used.

 

No mention of MacArthur because CSS will not be upgraded. 

Stadium Australia is not a joke, it works fine. The media would have us playing every game out of LO if they could because it looks great on TV. Too bad it has sub-standard facilities for those attending the ground. If TV is all you care about them LO would be it, but it’s not so move on from the media argument.

I'm not talking about CSS, you went through the distances to each of the stadiums but didn't include distances for the MacArthur region, almost like it doesn't matter?

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I look at it this way. I haven't taken anyone to the football since we stopped playing out of Stadium Australia. LO and CSS are really sub par. LO is like a third world country ground and CSS is only slightly better. They are both not suitable in the 21st century and just not acceptable for a new generation of fans (not fans that have been brought up in a Rugby League household). Assume none of the grounds (LO or CSS) will be upgraded (and I don't believe they ever will) and Liverpool is not built (I don't believe it ever will either). Which ground do you prefer? I cannot support Parramatta Stadium, besides the location its not built for fans. That leaves the SFS or Stadium Australia. My preference at the moment is Stadium Australia but I am really looking forward to checking out the new SFS. Given the limitation criteria (no new stadium or upgrades) which ground would people really prefer the new SFS or Stadium Australia?

WSS

So you’d prefer to sit in the sun all day, all presentations and entertainment with their back to you at Parramatta Stadium. OK. 

Over Stadium Australia and the SFS yes. They are not appropriate choices.

They are very appropriate choices and really the only feasible two. 

80000 seats for a side that averages around 17000 is not appropriate, maybe if we were averaging around 50000-60000, that point can not be argued. The other feasible option is outside our catchment areas and a long way away from one of our traditional areas. Wests Bondi Tigers. We are not an inner city club as much as you want us to be.

All nonsense @garry. Stadium Australia is fine. I’ve heard a dozen fanatics behind the goal post fill that stadium with atmosphere. If it’s not happening it’s the fans, not the stadium.

It’s also a rubbish argument about the SFS location, it’s not at Bondi and you know it. It’s located at the major sporting and entertainment precinct of SYDNEY. Wests Ashfield and the COE are closer to it than Parramatta Stadium. The COE is 15.7km from Parramatta Stadium but only 11km to the SFS. Wests Ashfield is 24km to Parramatta Stadium but it is only 8km to the SFS.  

No mention of the MacArthur?

 

!7k in an 80k stadium makes our sport look like a joke. look like it is a sport no one cares about. Why do you think the broadcasters don't want it to be used.

 

No mention of MacArthur because CSS will not be upgraded. 

Stadium Australia is not a joke, it works fine. The media would have us playing every game out of LO if they could because it looks great on TV. Too bad it has sub-standard facilities for those attending the ground. If TV is all you care about them LO would be it, but it’s not so move on from the media argument.

It is a joke, a side averaging 17k playing in an 80k seater, nowhere else in world sport would that happen. The place might as well be empty.

 

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I look at it this way. I haven't taken anyone to the football since we stopped playing out of Stadium Australia. LO and CSS are really sub par. LO is like a third world country ground and CSS is only slightly better. They are both not suitable in the 21st century and just not acceptable for a new generation of fans (not fans that have been brought up in a Rugby League household). Assume none of the grounds (LO or CSS) will be upgraded (and I don't believe they ever will) and Liverpool is not built (I don't believe it ever will either). Which ground do you prefer? I cannot support Parramatta Stadium, besides the location its not built for fans. That leaves the SFS or Stadium Australia. My preference at the moment is Stadium Australia but I am really looking forward to checking out the new SFS. Given the limitation criteria (no new stadium or upgrades) which ground would people really prefer the new SFS or Stadium Australia?

WSS

So you’d prefer to sit in the sun all day, all presentations and entertainment with their back to you at Parramatta Stadium. OK. 

Over Stadium Australia and the SFS yes. They are not appropriate choices.

They are very appropriate choices and really the only feasible two. 

80000 seats for a side that averages around 17000 is not appropriate, maybe if we were averaging around 50000-60000, that point can not be argued. The other feasible option is outside our catchment areas and a long way away from one of our traditional areas. Wests Bondi Tigers. We are not an inner city club as much as you want us to be.

All nonsense @garry. Stadium Australia is fine. I’ve heard a dozen fanatics behind the goal post fill that stadium with atmosphere. If it’s not happening it’s the fans, not the stadium.

It’s also a rubbish argument about the SFS location, it’s not at Bondi and you know it. It’s located at the major sporting and entertainment precinct of SYDNEY. Wests Ashfield and the COE are closer to it than Parramatta Stadium. The COE is 15.7km from Parramatta Stadium but only 11km to the SFS. Wests Ashfield is 24km to Parramatta Stadium but it is only 8km to the SFS.  

No mention of the MacArthur?

 

!7k in an 80k stadium makes our sport look like a joke. look like it is a sport no one cares about. Why do you think the broadcasters don't want it to be used.

 

No mention of MacArthur because CSS will not be upgraded. 

Stadium Australia is not a joke, it works fine. The media would have us playing every game out of LO if they could because it looks great on TV. Too bad it has sub-standard facilities for those attending the ground. If TV is all you care about them LO would be it, but it’s not so move on from the media argument.

It is a joke, a side averaging 17k playing in an 80k seater, nowhere else in world sport would that happen. The place might as well be empty.

 

How many would we get in blockbuster matches against top teams if we were a much better side? You’d get 30,000 plus I reckon.

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I don't have a problem with people liking Stadium Australia due to location and comfort, I get that and agree. I don't care if people have it as their preferred option for those reasons, I don't think anyone can deny that playing club matches there is an extremely poor look for the game. 

 

This is the biggest problem with this debate because everyone has different thing they feel is important, the club just needs to make a decision and people will either have to accept it and move on or stop going to games. I will go to where ever we play included Stadium Australia which a view as completely inappropriate for club football and the SFS which I feel would alienate half our supporter base.

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I look at it this way. I haven't taken anyone to the football since we stopped playing out of Stadium Australia. LO and CSS are really sub par. LO is like a third world country ground and CSS is only slightly better. They are both not suitable in the 21st century and just not acceptable for a new generation of fans (not fans that have been brought up in a Rugby League household). Assume none of the grounds (LO or CSS) will be upgraded (and I don't believe they ever will) and Liverpool is not built (I don't believe it ever will either). Which ground do you prefer? I cannot support Parramatta Stadium, besides the location its not built for fans. That leaves the SFS or Stadium Australia. My preference at the moment is Stadium Australia but I am really looking forward to checking out the new SFS. Given the limitation criteria (no new stadium or upgrades) which ground would people really prefer the new SFS or Stadium Australia?

WSS

So you’d prefer to sit in the sun all day, all presentations and entertainment with their back to you at Parramatta Stadium. OK. 

Over Stadium Australia and the SFS yes. They are not appropriate choices.

They are very appropriate choices and really the only feasible two. 

80000 seats for a side that averages around 17000 is not appropriate, maybe if we were averaging around 50000-60000, that point can not be argued. The other feasible option is outside our catchment areas and a long way away from one of our traditional areas. Wests Bondi Tigers. We are not an inner city club as much as you want us to be.

All nonsense @garry. Stadium Australia is fine. I’ve heard a dozen fanatics behind the goal post fill that stadium with atmosphere. If it’s not happening it’s the fans, not the stadium.

It’s also a rubbish argument about the SFS location, it’s not at Bondi and you know it. It’s located at the major sporting and entertainment precinct of SYDNEY. Wests Ashfield and the COE are closer to it than Parramatta Stadium. The COE is 15.7km from Parramatta Stadium but only 11km to the SFS. Wests Ashfield is 24km to Parramatta Stadium but it is only 8km to the SFS.  

No mention of the MacArthur?

 

!7k in an 80k stadium makes our sport look like a joke. look like it is a sport no one cares about. Why do you think the broadcasters don't want it to be used.

 

No mention of MacArthur because CSS will not be upgraded. 

Stadium Australia is not a joke, it works fine. The media would have us playing every game out of LO if they could because it looks great on TV. Too bad it has sub-standard facilities for those attending the ground. If TV is all you care about them LO would be it, but it’s not so move on from the media argument.

It is a joke, a side averaging 17k playing in an 80k seater, nowhere else in world sport would that happen. The place might as well be empty.

 

How many would we get in blockbuster matches against top teams if we were a much better side? You’d get 30,000 plus I reckon.

So still well short of even filling half of it?

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Would be a good atmosphere though Garry with 30,000

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Would be a good atmosphere though Garry with 30,000

Yes it starts to improve from 30K

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I would have been happier with Stadium Australia if it got the upgrade it was supposed to receive. 

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Would be a good atmosphere though Garry with 30,000

Yes it starts to improve from 30K

You, Mike and I will be there…just need the other 29,997 people!

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