An article I have written about how things have changed over the years (maybe not for the better).
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/democracy-lost-wests-tigers-fans-now-have-no-say/
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Membership is just fan membership or season ticket holders if you like. It’s been that way since the Wests Tigers inception. Wests Tigers fans have NEVER had voting rights. So Wests Tigers fans haven’t lost anything, because they never had it in the first place.An article I have written about how things have changed over the years (maybe not for the better).
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/democracy-lost-wests-tigers-fans-now-have-no-say/
Membership is just fan membership or season ticket holders if you like. It’s been that way since the Wests Tigers inception. Wests Tigers fans have NEVER had voting rights. So Wests Tigers fans haven’t lost anything, because they never had it in the first place.An article I have written about how things have changed over the years (maybe not for the better).
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/democracy-lost-wests-tigers-fans-now-have-no-say/
True, but we had our foundation clubs and now we have zero.
Wests Tigers Podcast - Talking everything Wests Tigers!
The fans should have representation at the board level, voted by the fans. Not necessarily the whole board but at least 1 or 2 board members representing and voted by fans. But that’s not how Wests Tigers was established.Membership is just fan membership or season ticket holders if you like. It’s been that way since the Wests Tigers inception. Wests Tigers fans have NEVER had voting rights. So Wests Tigers fans haven’t lost anything, because they never had it in the first place.An article I have written about how things have changed over the years (maybe not for the better).
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/democracy-lost-wests-tigers-fans-now-have-no-say/
True, but we had our foundation clubs and now we have zero.
A change is needed in the governance of Wests Tigers Rugby League Football Pty Ltd which holds the NRL issued Wests Tigers licence.
The fans should have representation at the board level, voted by the fans. Not necessarily the whole board but at least 1 or 2 board members representing and voted by fans. But that’s not how Wests Tigers was established.Membership is just fan membership or season ticket holders if you like. It’s been that way since the Wests Tigers inception. Wests Tigers fans have NEVER had voting rights. So Wests Tigers fans haven’t lost anything, because they never had it in the first place.An article I have written about how things have changed over the years (maybe not for the better).
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/democracy-lost-wests-tigers-fans-now-have-no-say/
True, but we had our foundation clubs and now we have zero.
A change is needed in the governance of Wests Tigers Rugby League Football Pty Ltd which holds the NRL issued Wests Tigers licence.
Agreed.
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Some representation of the members on the Board, voted in by the members, would seem fair. Just one. Would empower the membership base in some small way I guess, probably more of a symbolic appointment then anything but better than what they have now. What kind of process would be involved in allowing that to happen?
Some representation of the members on the Board, voted in by the members, would seem fair. Just one. Would empower the membership base in some small way I guess, probably more of a symbolic appointment then anything but better than what they have now. What kind of process would be involved in allowing that to happen?
West Ashfield Board would have to approve of changes to the Wests Tigers Board so only way would be to lobby Andreacchio
Personally, I am firmly of the opinion that fans should have zero involvement in the running of a professional sports team/club/franchise. Because we love the club does not make us any more qualified to have input or make decisions. A reminder that Balmain and Wests we both "members run" which ran both clubs into the ground to the point where they had to merge and sacrifice their identity to survive.
The argument that by some means "fans/members" should be able to remove board members by some mechanism is also IMO a poor one. A board needs security of tenure so that it has the authority and confidence to make tough, hard or unpopular opinions for the good of the club without worrying that by doing something unpopular (which might be the right thing to do) that a fan uprising will cull them and strike down the decision making role of the board. I have seen fan forums overrun but little populist uprisings let alone unleashing that level of unprofessionalism on the club. Parra & Bulldogs, although seemingly stable now had fan led turmoil for years with factions wrecking their boards.
Finally IMO a "token" position on a board representing fans, simply dilutes the board in that that postion has no power.
TLDR, I think fans should be kept as far as possible from running the club.
Some representation of the members on the Board, voted in by the members, would seem fair. Just one. Would empower the membership base in some small way I guess, probably more of a symbolic appointment then anything but better than what they have now. What kind of process would be involved in allowing that to happen?
It would be totally symbolic which means you have simply diluted the board with one position being completely powerless and useless. Would much rather that position being filled by a genuinely independent (not "independent" like Stapletone) board member with business/marketing/financial expertise.
The fans should have representation at the board level, voted by the fans.Membership is just fan membership or season ticket holders if you like. It’s been that way since the Wests Tigers inception. Wests Tigers fans have NEVER had voting rights. So Wests Tigers fans haven’t lost anything, because they never had it in the first place.An article I have written about how things have changed over the years (maybe not for the better).
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/democracy-lost-wests-tigers-fans-now-have-no-say/
True, but we had our foundation clubs and now we have zero.
Why?
Good article by the way @Helmesy. Good food for discussion.
So that at the Board Level there is some accountability directly to all stakeholders, and that include the fans who pay for the privilege of supporting the club. The Board members elected by the fans could actually add some professionalism to the Company which it is currently lacking. I would think those Board Members elected by the fans would have a professional background and not just be a rich person who buys their way in, which is the current situation for most current Board members.The fans should have representation at the board level, voted by the fans.Membership is just fan membership or season ticket holders if you like. It’s been that way since the Wests Tigers inception. Wests Tigers fans have NEVER had voting rights. So Wests Tigers fans haven’t lost anything, because they never had it in the first place.An article I have written about how things have changed over the years (maybe not for the better).
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/democracy-lost-wests-tigers-fans-now-have-no-say/
True, but we had our foundation clubs and now we have zero.
Why?
So that at the Board Level there is some accountability directly to all stakeholders, and that include the fans who pay for the privilege of supporting the club. The Board members elected by the fans could actually add some professionalism to the Company which it is currently lacking. I would think those Board Members elected by the fans would have a professional background and not just be a rich person who buys their way in, which is the current situation for most current Board members.The fans should have representation at the board level, voted by the fans.Membership is just fan membership or season ticket holders if you like. It’s been that way since the Wests Tigers inception. Wests Tigers fans have NEVER had voting rights. So Wests Tigers fans haven’t lost anything, because they never had it in the first place.An article I have written about how things have changed over the years (maybe not for the better).
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/democracy-lost-wests-tigers-fans-now-have-no-say/
True, but we had our foundation clubs and now we have zero.
Why?
I doubt that would happen under a popular vote, I have my opinions on who would get in and it wouldn't be beneficial.
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The fans should have representation at the board level, voted by the fans.
Why?
So that at the Board Level there is some accountability directly to all stakeholders,
How would a fan occupying one seat on the board contribute any accountibility in practical terms? Not having a crack at you, but in practice, how would it change what the board does?
and that include the fans who pay for the privilege of supporting the club.
Wests Ashfield are the stakeholders, fans are customers. Stark reality.
The Board members elected by the fans could actually add some professionalism to the Company which it is currently lacking. I would think those Board Members elected by the fans would have a professional background.
Explain to me how the board member elected by fans would not be Demps or Rob Bechara? That is the reality of this proposal.
Just to clarify my point, Im not wrapped in the current board but IMO fan involvement is not the answer.
But to further make the point, if fans could, which board member would you sack or replace? We have zero knowledge of what they do. Personally I'd sack Dennis Burgess, purely based on the way he presents, but he might be fantastic on the board.
